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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: San Diego Tire and Wheel - got some nice 17x8!! Reply with quote

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DAAAAAAAAAMMMMN! That is a sweet looking setup!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about getting these for my 79' bus. Any thoughts as to if they will work or if they would require much modifications?

rim size:17"x7"
bolt pattern:5x112/105
offset+42

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those wheels were imported and sold by Jeff Schwaia. I don't believe he's doing that anymore - he's concentrating on his business as a registered vehicle importer, Autostadt West. He's one of the good guys! Wink
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Im sorry you think anyone would bullshit about wheels on a vw van. Perhaps in your life people are that sad. I deleted the photos and Im going surfing. Enjoy yourself.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes I run across the same wheels with slightly different ET's

I attribute this to different amounts of material machined off the mounting surface of the same wheel casting.

so, my question is, if one was going to have the bolt face machined off to change ET from 28 to 30 on a 17x8 wheel...what would be the minimal acceptable material thickness for the lug to hang on to on an aluminum rim ?...if you get me.

on a 17x8 wheel with an ET of 28, one would have just a little too much poke I think. if the best ET is 30...maybe 28 isn't too bad. I have run ET 32 with a about 3/16"" spacer, which is pretty close to 4mm.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are correct that two wheels that otherwise are the same yet have differing offsets have their wheel mounting points machined differently to achieve that different offset. However, nearly every wheel also has the lug seats machined to match the particular offset so that the wheel thickness through the lug hole is uniform throughout their wheel line, regardless of the offset. This means that most often, there isn't much material that can be machined off of the backside.

A good rule of thumb, is that you want a cast wheel to be at least 8-10mm thick (depending on the quality of the wheels) as measured through the lug hole from the base/bottom of the lug seat area down to the wheel/hub mounting face, and a forged wheel to be 4-5mm thick through this same area.

Sometimes 2mm makes all the difference in the world, either visually, fitment wise, or both. But other times, a 2mm difference is just being picky.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Loogy,

I would like to fit Porsche 928 flat dish wheels 16 inch in my syncro.
My car is a standard 14 inch.
To fit different width wheels is a big no no at a syncro correct ?
And if I put same size tyres the outer diameter differnce it will be greater than the 2mm that is allowed ?
As I love to have 7s in front and 8s at the rear.
So if I am correct 7s all around.
What adapters do I need and can I use Porsche factory alloy lugnuts ?

Thank you very much,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These seem like they could almost be a nice direct swap, no?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/2540233389.html

16x6.5" OEM VW tiguan wheels w/215/65 eagle tires

centerbore and caps need adjusting but isn't this otherwise pretty good?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelhead wrote:
These seem like they could almost be a nice direct swap, no?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/2540233389.html

16x6.5" OEM VW tiguan wheels w/215/65 eagle tires

centerbore and caps need adjusting but isn't this otherwise pretty good?



Yep, open up the centerbores and run the correct lugs and your golden...other than the center caps.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dimitrios wrote:
Hi Loogy,

I would like to fit Porsche 928 flat dish wheels 16 inch in my syncro.
My car is a standard 14 inch.
To fit different width wheels is a big no no at a syncro correct ?
And if I put same size tyres the outer diameter differnce it will be greater than the 2mm that is allowed ?
As I love to have 7s in front and 8s at the rear.
So if I am correct 7s all around.
What adapters do I need and can I use Porsche factory alloy lugnuts ?

Thank you very much,
Jim


Theoretically, if you run the exact same diameter tires front and rear, your viscous coupling won't know the difference. Whether or not you decide to do this is completely up to you.

For adapters, I would run a 20mm front and 27mm rear.

Yes, you can use factory Porsche lug nuts with the adapters as long as the adapters have 14x1.5 studs, like ours do.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Loogy,

Thank you for the great info.
It will be just great if I can use 7/8s instead of 7s all around.
What size tyres are recommended for my bare stock Syncro 14" ???
Could you please pm for cost and shipping for a set of your adapters?
They need to be shipped in Athens, Greece

Thank you,
Jim

PS Forgot to mention that these wheels are not stick out of the wheel wells correct ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: 2002-05 Passat "Road America" 16" Rims Reply with quote

Hey Loogy, longtime lurker, getting close to pulling the trigger, but before I launch into specs/questions, I just want to say MANY THANKS! for all the effort you have put into this and other threads. I hope that you are reaping the well-deserved benefits on t3technique.com

Anyhoo, my question is about these guys:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/2551703859.html

99% sure they are these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-01-02-New-Beetle...398wt_1026

Which have an ET of 37. So a few Q's...

Any idea about centerbore/lug width/lug seats?

And also, with an ET of 37, will 7mm front and 12mm rear do it for spacers?

The tires alone are making me think these are a good deal.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: 2002-05 Passat "Road America" 16" Rims Reply with quote

Johnny_the_boy wrote:
Hey Loogy, longtime lurker, getting close to pulling the trigger, but before I launch into specs/questions, I just want to say MANY THANKS! for all the effort you have put into this and other threads. I hope that you are reaping the well-deserved benefits on t3technique.com

Anyhoo, my question is about these guys:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/2551703859.html

99% sure they are these

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-01-02-New-Beetle...398wt_1026

Which have an ET of 37. So a few Q's...

Any idea about centerbore/lug width/lug seats?

And also, with an ET of 37, will 7mm front and 12mm rear do it for spacers?

The tires alone are making me think these are a good deal.



Thank you for the kudos and well wishes. T3 Technique is going strong and growing all the time.

As for those wheels and tires, the tires are just a bit light on the load ratings at 94 (Nokian i3). Something to consider when it comes to the purchase price.

You will have to have the centers of those wheels machined out to 66.56mm and the center caps won't fit. We may be able to machine up some of the Wolfsburg caps to fit, but you would have to mount the wheels and take some measurements to know for sure.

The cross section of the wheels through the lug hole is about 8mm and they will require small ball seat lugs.

For 7mm front spacers (and assuming stock brakes), you would want either 32mm long bolts or 32.25mm (no lead) conversion studs along with the small ball seat lug nuts.

For the rear with stock brakes and 12mm spacers, you would want 52mm studs and small ball seat lug nuts.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As for those wheels and tires, the tires are just a bit light on the load ratings at 94 (Nokian i3). Something to consider when it comes to the purchase price.


Nice eye. I thought they were the WR C Van, or the WRG2's, but now I see you're right. Didn't look at the tread closely enough.

Oh well, back to staking Craigslist. I'm sure I'll be hitting you up for what I will need to buy from you again at some point in the future.... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys,
these wheels have the correct lug pattern, so I would hope they would be a straight swap. Maybe just need longer lug bolts? (and proper tires)

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/pts/2555019988.html
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelB12 wrote:
Hey guys,
these wheels have the correct lug pattern, so I would hope they would be a straight swap. Maybe just need longer lug bolts? (and proper tires)

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/pts/2555019988.html


Depending on the tire size used, you would need a 7-10mm spacer for a 2wd (nothing for a Syncro) and there may be some minor center cap clearance issues, but that may be able to be corrected via spacers and/or trimming the front grease caps (2wd). Correct lugs and longer rear studs (if spacers are used on the rear) would also be needed.
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