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Vinnems
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 Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject: New struts and springs question |
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| I bought new struts inserts for the front of my Super Beetle and it is TIGHT. I can't get it to move at all. Is this normal? It concerns me because I don't think it is even possible to compress the spring enough to install the bearing stuff on the strut. They are just new Monroe. |
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vw_hank
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I'm A little confused about your question,, what is too tight?
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Vinnems
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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| The strut cartridge protrusion part, I guess you can call it. The bit that moves up a down, returns things to its original position. |
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beetlenut
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:41 pm Post subject: Re: New struts and springs question |
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| Vinnems wrote: |
| I bought new struts inserts for the front of my Super Beetle and it is TIGHT. I can't get it to move at all. Is this normal? It concerns me because I don't think it is even possible to compress the spring enough to install the bearing stuff on the strut. They are just new Monroe. |
Are they Gas shock inserts?
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Vinnems
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think. These are the struts:
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stasher1
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you have a set of spring compressors? |
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Vinnems
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Stasher, yeah, some Craftsmen, but the thing is, it's so low I would have to completely compress the spring, and even then, I'm not sure if it would fit. I'll take a pic when I get home.
I think I'll but the bearing housing stuff together and bring it to a local shop to worry about. |
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flyboat
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds like you need to completely remove teh strut from the car and replace the inserts on a bench. Use the compressors withthe parts out from under the car. It should work fine. This will allow you to hook up the tops parts properly. I wonder if you should do a "How To" search
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Vinnems
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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OK, here's what I'm talking about. I don't think, even fully compressed, the top of the strut cartridge would be out enough to attach the bearing housing, and I find it impossible to move these new strut cartridges out. |
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stasher1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Strut cartridges are typically shipped compressed, and some brands may even be held in that position with things like safety wire or clips. These apparently have no safety wire, so have you tried "unscrewing" the shaft by using a slotted screwdriver in the end? |
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flyboat
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You'll have to find out why those piston rods won't move. They should move up and down fairly easy. After you discover that, you won't have any problems
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flyboat
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What did you find out about the strut rods. Were they threaded for shipping or something else
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Vinnems
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't tried anything flyboat. I'll definitely check when I get home because I need to put them back on like right now  |
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Vinnems
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| Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Stasher, that was the ticket! I used a screwdriver to twist it about a quarter turn, and they popped right up. Now I probably don't even need a spring compressor. My brother can push the spring down enough for me to cap it. |
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Glad you figured it out. Get insurance on your brother's teeth.
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