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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: What's the best way to crimp these panels? |
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I posted this in the Paint/Body forum, but haven't gotten a response. I've looked through many build threads but didn't get a specific answer.
What is the best tool(s)/way to crimp this panels on to my single cab? I've seen the door skin tools, but how well do they work on round edges? I don't want the corners to look like poopoo!
Flat edges are easy and I've got the hammer and dolly techniques down for those. I've never attempted these kind of crimps. Thanks |
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krusher Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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I dont know if a door skinning tool can handle that corner, I would probably end up cutting triangles out of it and hammer and dollying it.
I dont think there are any basic home tools that can fold and shrink that edge
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Saul Koll Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Roachdub, do you have any more pics of your bed replacement?
I have the same job looming.
Thanks!
Saul _________________ "I wish you could smell the smell that's coming from the bus"... |
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Culito 11010101
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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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I saw a thread around here a while back that described this exact procedure....it's around here somewhere, but I haven't found it yet. _________________ Copyright CJ Industries, Inc.
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dref Banned
Joined: April 15, 2011 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Flat vise grip to get it started, then a block of wood + hammer. It's a real PITA but tis' not so hard once you get it started and have a few or 10 hours to spend.... |
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9787 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: |
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I have never done this specific job, but for folding and crimping flat steel, I use these:
Knipex 8603-12 12-inch Plier Wrench
They have smooth jaws, and are basically my favorite tool in the toolbox.
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sventinker Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:06 am Post subject: |
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j.pickens wrote: |
I have never done this specific job, but for folding and crimping flat steel, I use these:
Knipex 8603-12 12-inch Plier Wrench
They have smooth jaws, and are basically my favorite tool in the toolbox.
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I have the same ones but with the toothed jaw and they are the nicest pliers I have ever used. I would imagine they would do that job well without marring the metal _________________ April 3rd 62 standard mgr/pw
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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j.pickens wrote: |
I have never done this specific job, but for folding and crimping flat steel, I use these:
Knipex 8603-12 12-inch Plier Wrench
They have smooth jaws, and are basically my favorite tool in the toolbox.
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Also my most favorite tool in my tool box. Also works great to crush the vent wing pivot rivet _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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splitpile Samba's Worst Speller
Joined: May 03, 2000 Posts: 5927 Location: back to living where hell meets the suface
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:37 am Post subject: Re: What's the best way to crimp these panels? |
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roachdub58 wrote: |
I posted this in the Paint/Body forum, but haven't gotten a response. I've looked through many build threads but didn't get a specific answer.
What is the best tool(s)/way to crimp this panels on to my single cab? I've seen the door skin tools, but how well do they work on round edges? I don't want the corners to look like poopoo!
Flat edges are easy and I've got the hammer and dolly techniques down for those. I've never attempted these kind of crimps. Thanks |
I spot weld (could be plug welded or screw down also) the bed sections down along the edges then use my heal dolly and slowly start working the lip. When folded I just continue with the dolly and finish with a couple pieces of 6 inch long 1/3" square tool steel useing the knipex smooth jaw channel locks to get a tight crimp. When I get to the corners I get the mapp gas torch out and slowly heat and hammer the corner lip over.
Everyone has their own method, this just works for me _________________ Stocking distributor of "The Funky Green Panels"
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TinCanFab Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Saul Koll wrote: |
Roachdub, do you have any more pics of your bed replacement?
I have the same job looming.
Thanks!
Saul |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=420762
Well, no not yet. Check out my build's link. The bed skins were missing when I got this truck. |
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cru62 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Start folding it over at the corners. If you don't start there you will end up with extra material that has no where to shrink to. The corners actually have too much material when folded over. There is plenty of room on the long flat sides to shrink the metal. Obviously you will want to sneak up on the fold. In other words, don't pound it all down at once. Just in small increments. Sheetmetal pliers work great after the edge of the panel is locked,(i.e. folder past 90 degrees). The pliers make short work of it and then everything is seated with a hammer and dolly. There some great tutorials on YouTube. Search door skins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlKnUptnflU&feature=related
This is a start. Lots to look at. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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slow36hp scott wimberley
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slow36hp scott wimberley
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gatorwyatt Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: What's the best way to crimp these panels? |
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Any updates on crimping especially the separation panel on truck? Now that the newer Gerson panels are in circulation how has everyone been successful getting the top crimped over on the rear wall? _________________ www.blastserv.com
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9787 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: What's the best way to crimp these panels? |
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gatorwyatt wrote: |
Any updates on crimping especially the separation panel on truck? Now that the newer Gerson panels are in circulation how has everyone been successful getting the top crimped over on the rear wall? |
Never done this job, but these guys seem to have alot of hand sheet metal seaming tools:
https://www.stortz.com/product-category/roofing-to...and-tongs/ _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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PeteSC Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: What's the best way to crimp these panels? |
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gatorwyatt wrote: |
Any updates on crimping especially the separation panel on truck? Now that the newer Gerson panels are in circulation how has everyone been successful getting the top crimped over on the rear wall? |
Kurt has a very good video and photos on how he did it in his "Funky Truck" thread below, starting with his 3rd post from the top on this page:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7630957&highlight=separation+panel#7630957 |
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peecee69 Samba Member
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gatorwyatt Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: What's the best way to crimp these panels? |
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Thanks for the tips... much appreciated _________________ www.blastserv.com
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j.pickens Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: What's the best way to crimp these panels? |
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$111 dollars? That's a smoking deal of a price! _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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i wish more people would actually drive their vws rather than just talking about what they have in the garage. |
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