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Björn Schewe
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 Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:43 am Post subject: 1939 KDF Type 62 Prototype |
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It was in the end 1999, when I have visited a good friend in Austria. He is one of the original persons, who are involved into vintage Volkswagen since the early 1960s. We were discussing about this, we were discussing about that and during that discussion, I had a view into his collection of photos he shot during the past 50 years. Our discussion changed when I saw pictures of one of the early Schwimmwagen meetings at the Attersee nearby Salzburg. Between the Schwimm- and Kübelwagen and some brand new VW Type 3 and beetles I noticed a car I never thought that it survived the post-war time. I asked my friend if this car is true or a fake and he told me that this car belongs to the man since the early 1950s and that the car was actually for sale. I informed Christian and it was no question that this car should be a good part in the Grundmann Collection. Our friend contacted the owner but he told him, that the car was sold to a collector who didn’t want to publish his name. But our friend said, that if there is someone who Fight have bought that car, it could only one person.
I knew that guy too and whenever Christian and me met him on a vintage car show, he told us the story that the ownership between the Relict and him was not true. After a couple of years – and our permanent questions about the car, he told us that we are right with our ideas and that he owns the car - but not allowed to talk about it. He invited us to his house in the Austrian mountains to have a look at the car. But we didn’t had time and when we tried to contact him, we have heard that he passed away a couple of weeks before our call. A few month ago, a friend of Christian got the information, that the family wanted to sell the collection – and there was really interesting stuff inclusive. But the most interesting car for us was not on the list of the selling cars. This summer, Christian got in contact with the daughter. It was a nice talk and she told him that the family decided to sell the car by a friend of the family. What a luck that we were good friends with him too and we all were fair to each other for all the time so that Christian could pull on his trailer. I think if you see the following pictures you are as surprised as we were 12 years ago…
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Undis
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Please go on...! 
Does this mean he had a stack of W30 parts in his collection? |
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Wiggy
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RichOakley
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| I look forward to the update! This is crazy! |
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tstracy39
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LeviMan2001
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joe h.
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MDKG
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Are the latest photos you downloaded into the gallery a hint?  |
and the posts here?
Very cool story. Usually a thread like this ends up being locked or the original poster just backs out but you guys pull it off every time and I have all the faith this will be again a spectacular find  .
What else was in the collection BTW? |
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Geothon
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Is it known how this car was found and saved originally during or immediately after the war? |
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belgianboxer
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Many thanks Björn for creating this topic and posting the first pictures of this Type 62. And ofcourse congratulations to the Grundmanns with this newest acquisition for their collection 
Type 62 Kübelwagen prototypes were supposed to sit on VW38/39 chassis, so I’m still wondering what the link is between this vehicle and the 1937 W30/26 chassis... (see topic http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5590579#5590579 )…?
If I'm correct, both were found in Austria... But we would also love to hear the rest of the story...
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Paul |
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Björn Schewe
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As a testing car, Porsche used different chassis for that body. Originaly, there was a VW39 Chassis underneeth but them Porsche installed a 4-Wheel-Drive Chassis. On the picutre you can see the mold and the Tunnel for the 5th-gear-Shifter.
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martin877
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hi björn !
must there not be 2 holes?
one for normal drive and one for 4 wheel drive? |
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GeoffP
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| Another amazing find! |
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:06 am Post subject: Re: The Relict |
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Interesting wheels and hub caps. not your standard VW wheels.
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RichOakley
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Björn my friend. We need more information  I hope that you and Christian can share more about the history with us. This is just an amazing find!! |
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HUGO bOSS
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Bjorn, only you guys to find another living piece of history...
It looks like never been restored... |
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52brezelfenster
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Incredible. Thanks for sharing. |
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bugman56
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Bjorn, can you please give consideration to adopting me so I can be there firsthand when you find these amazing cars. Would love to see some of these cars in person.
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Komissar
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Any chances of interior (dashboard) and engine shots ?
Thanks.
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Björn Schewe
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:21 am Post subject: |
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I just fuelled the Gallery with some more detailed pictures...
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