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Larry Davick Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2011 Posts: 75 Location: Fremont, California U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: Sleeping Beauty arrives at her castle |
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Well, the '81 Westy that has been sleeping inside since 1990 has just arrived at her new castle. We will attempt to awaken her in the next few weeks.
My 16 year old daughter is in love with Westfalia's and wants to use it as her surfing ride.
I can't say that this is my best decision, but if you are interested in the tale, read on.
After reading this forum for a few weeks and searching ebay and craigslist I saw an 81 automatic (had to be automatic) listed on ebay that had been in storage for 21 years. As I understand it a Doctor was the 2nd owner and enjoyed the Westy quite a lot, but bought another camper that became his favorite. This one sat for a year or two 'till he decided to park it in one of his buildings. And there it sat.
At one point somebody repainted it, going so far as to remove the doors, rear glass and windshield. It seems that the space where this was parked was needed for a new tenant, and so the Doctor decided to sell it. A fellow in La Jolla bought it and brought it home to his wife, who thought he had lost his mind. He put it on ebay, and the rest is history.
So far I've had it towed to my friend's shop in Sacramento to have the windows reinstalled, and to a tire shop to have new (very expensive) tires put on. Since it doesn't run I rented a U-Haul trailer and brought her home today.
I'm still extremely green at all of this, but I have just placed my 3rd order with Bus Depot, even though I'm all the way out in California. It's true that I don't know any better, but their service has been fantastic, and their website, though very 1990's, is easy to navigate and informative.
If this Westfalia ever saw "Sleeper" then I hope it was taking notes. I'm not so naive to think that it will just start with a new battery, but I am hopeful that after cleaning the tank, replacing all the fuel lines, all brake hoses, wheel and master cylinders that I have a fighting chance of cranking her up. Of course I intend to squirt some oil in the cylinders and turn it over by hand a few spins first.
I am open to suggestions, criticisms, comparisons, and long-winded stories of what's what. Do not worry about hurting my feelings if you have something valuable to add, I'm all ears.
Thanks for reading this and wish me luck. _________________ 1981 Westy Automatic
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:48 am Post subject: |
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SO give us the E bay item number and lets see it . _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
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Call anytime number 650 722 4914 .
Keep Your van running and upkept tastefully for the love of the hobby.
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Syncroincity Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1557 Location: New York City
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Just wanted to say; Good luck, and we're all counting on you.
After you get it spun back up, (once it stops smoking ) do a compression test of the cylinders, that wil give you a good idea of the general health of the engine. The auto trans in these vans are pretty stout, just change the fluid & you should be ready to roll to the beach.
Any signs of mouse in the house? Do a THOROUGH vacuum & bleach cleaning if any mouse habitation is discovered, wear a respirator if you need to do this.
Get some wide-angle stick-on mirrors for the rear views, there's odd blind spots on these that an inexperienced driver won't be conscious of; they tend to cut corners too sharply and bash up the sides of the van in front of the rear wheels.
Use the search button, there's decades of info in here, but if you can't find something, everyone's very helpful, don't hesitate to ask.
ps What tires did you get? _________________ '86 Syncro CHC Top AAZ Turbodiesel
'04 Passat Variant 4Mo 5MT
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7733 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Good reading & closer to the castle...http://gowesty.com/media_library.php _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:34 am Post subject: |
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CONGRATS and may you be the Prince who awakens Sleeping Beauty. I'd be doing the fuel lines for sure and take a close look at the radiator. Happy Trails and Surf! _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16473 Location: Brookeville, MD
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RCB Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2005 Posts: 4143 Location: San Francisco-Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Congratulations on your find and hats off to you for doing your homework, prior to deciding on a road trip. Im way out in California too and Bus Depot has been elected as my "go to" vendor for parts. I also find their website to be user friendly.
Besides your mentioned maintenance plan, have your mechanic change out the old brake fluid; might as well change out the transmission fluid as well. Im lucky enough to have a mechanic who is Vanagon savy so if I could offer up another suggestion; find a mechanic who is very familure with the Vanagon "quirks".
I have an 82 Westy and thanks to The Samba, I learned years ago just how important it is to have all the engine tin in place. Having an intact engine to body seal is an absolute must. The tin and seal are critical as they keep the heat outa' the engine compartment...heat is a real killer to an aircooled motor.
You didnt mention the holy grail of manuals otherwise known as The Bentley. You want the 1980-1984 edition. The Haynes manual is a bit easier on the brain whereas the Bentley; being the factory manual, takes some gettin' used to.
Considering were both driving an older Van, you should take into consideration the availibility of Fuel Injection parts. Some are a tad scarce, so ponder the idea of getting a few for your onboard tool box (the glove compartment)
Welcome aboard, its nice to meet another owner of an air-cooled Vanagon.
Safe and happy motoring to ya |
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Larry Davick Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2011 Posts: 75 Location: Fremont, California U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:35 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like I'm in good company!
The tires are Yokohama's chosen more for the fellow who sold them than anything else. I called a few tire dealers (armed with TheSamba knowledge) and 3 out of 4 were clueless. This fellow, Jim, at America's Tire, knew the Westy, how heavy it is, and the proper tires for her. He carried Yokohama's, so he ordered up a set.
The ebay item number was 250887072592, though she looks much better in pictures right now... _________________ 1981 Westy Automatic
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SteelB12 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2010 Posts: 591 Location: Central Virginia
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a pretty decent van to start with. That upholstery hurts my eyes!
So is the tent ripped? It didn't look to healthy in that photo _________________ 1987 Westy |
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vela123321 Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2010 Posts: 172 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:12 am Post subject: |
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also don't forget
http://www.van-cafe.com/
Peter has been a big help to me... I've also had good luck with GoWesty. _________________ ________________________
1987 Westfalia Vanagon 2.1 automatic
2014 VW TDi Jetta Sportwagen (Dieselgate)
2016 BMW 328i
1967 Bug... given to a friend
others not VW... Toyota, Audi, Volvo, Datsun, International Harvester |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: |
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sorry about that! Usually I'm tuned into that fact. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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debbiej Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2008 Posts: 1541 Location: las cruces, nm
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:30 am Post subject: |
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she is a sleeping beauty! Is your lucky daughter on board to help? congratulations, and best of luck! |
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Larry Davick Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2011 Posts: 75 Location: Fremont, California U.S.A.
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:58 am Post subject: |
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van-cafe.com is right here in Santa Cruz (I'm in Fremont) so that's very helpful, but I think they specialize in water cooled, and ours is air cooled. Still, I'd wager that they know more about our Vanagon than 99% of the population
vela123321 wrote: |
also don't forget
http://www.van-cafe.com/
Peter has been a big help to me... I've also had good luck with GoWesty. |
_________________ 1981 Westy Automatic
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HBSURFDAD Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2008 Posts: 71 Location: Huntington Beach, CA USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Congrats. My 16 year old kid grabbed my Westy for her surf van! We have gone through all the stuff togeather in the last three years, and am now down to some paint work and new seat covers then done (ha ha, I know how stupid that sounds)! Now every morning I hear her driving off to surf team practice and am a bit jealous of our/her ride.
Enjoy the time, the westy is a great spot to hang between sessions.
HBSURFDAD _________________ HBSURFDAD
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The Big Red Lunchbox
87 Wolfsberg Westy Weekender (automatic)
Rolling on 16's |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Hold on. I will not comment on the surfer chick and camper thing, but will about tires:
Look around. Many of us run Hankook RA08s. You can get the van shoed for like around $500ish give or take. Those are the right tires for it.
Tires are a religious subject around here.
Also, air cooled campers require some piloting skills as that wheezer 68 hp engine has to push mighty hard to move that Westy around. Toss in the automatic and it is just that much more stress. You are warned.
Now go have fun!
-Walt (The Moderator) _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
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crazybaja1 Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2011 Posts: 30 Location: Israel
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: 81 westy |
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Good luck!!!
It'll worth it |
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WVVWFERG Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2005 Posts: 233 Location: Charleston, West Virginia
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject: westy |
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take a look at autohausaz.com ; good prices , good service and FREE SHIPPING ON ORDERS OVER $50 (AREN'T THEY ALL OVER $50???). FLAPS , like "Advance") have a surprizing array of Vanagon parts available, can have them in a day or 2, no shipping costs (and my local store e gives me the same discount as on-line orders; today it's 20%).Another source for some not-common parts is Ken at van-again.com) |
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noganav Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2006 Posts: 1236 Location: San Diego CA
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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That's definitely an Aircooled engine, but what's behind the lower grill? |
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16CVs Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2004 Posts: 4020 Location: Redwood City, California
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe someone put a front clip on it and didn't realize that it was different until they were done. _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia Triple knob (bastard)
1989 Syncro Tristar Triple knob "Swedish"
2013 Jetta Hybrid a true "Zwitter"
Samba member # 14980
Call anytime number 650 722 4914 .
Keep Your van running and upkept tastefully for the love of the hobby.
Don't let your van end up in an "abortions" thread. |
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srmpf Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2011 Posts: 296
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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great deal - I paid more for my very rough looking 82 diesel. also on eBay.
the only thing that makes me wondering if this story is really true is the peeling wallpaper. If it really was stored 20 years+ in a warehouse, why did the wallpaper came off? I thought you needed heat for that Did you check the VIN on the van? |
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