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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:59 am Post subject: |
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whynotvw wrote: |
I love my south african lights.
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Is that the Balboa ferry? _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
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MichaelRpdx Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2010 Posts: 146 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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psych-illogical wrote: |
I think it's an improvement over the square headlight versions for sure but that's certainly a matter of opinion.
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That's only a matter of opinion for those that haven't compared the lighting quality between square and SA. Anyone that has seen the difference knows the fact of the SA being a huge improvement.
With my square headlights in city driving I only knew if they were on or off when people flashed me to warn of headlights off. _________________ Michael in PDX
Sauntering around with Frances, a red 89 Westy |
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Busdepot Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 1306
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:04 am Post subject: |
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There is only one manufacturer of the grill, so you'll get the same grill no matter where you buy it. They quality control is so-so and minor cosmetic blemishes are not uncommon. We have had to reject one or two because they had significant cosmetic flaws.
At one time some other vendors were including cheap aftermarket inner lights instead of the correct VW/Hella ones. To my knowledge that is not currently the case. Some other vendors have also included black emblems instead of the correct chrome ones here and there. Again, I'm not sure if that is the case anymore.
Of course we are the only ones who provide the good Bosch H4 headlights. The other vendors include no outer lights at all. _________________ - Ron Salmon
The Bus Depot
www.busdepot.com |
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whynotvw Samba Member
Joined: May 04, 2004 Posts: 1322
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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r39o wrote: |
Is that the Balboa ferry? |
it sure is |
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Syncroincity Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1557 Location: New York City
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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mtnwater wrote: |
Again, has anyone else had issues with water/condensation on the inside of the inner lights? Hoping my experience is an exception to the norm. Not super excited about spending the $$ needed to replace both inners, and am hoping that the next set will be better sealed than the last.
Otherwise, I agree with all who have posted about the durability of the grill itself - 8 years an no issues, and I've pulled it off and on dozens of times. |
One of mine is doing that, the other is fine. I bought real German Hella Cabriolet lights to replace them. The ones we got with the grille have a Chinese vibe to them. I got mine in the Great SA Group Buy orgy a few years ago... Plastic is holding up great.
I wanted to experiment with early-90s BMW projector lights, but the mount cavity is way too shallow on the driver's side to accomodate one because of that big channel that runs up behind the light... the pass. side has plenty of room. _________________ '86 Syncro CHC Top AAZ Turbodiesel
'04 Passat Variant 4Mo 5MT
Vanagon Build: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=466866&highlight= |
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K58 Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2006 Posts: 1173 Location: Santa Barbara
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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axeman
Did you build that light bar? It looks awesome and really fits well.
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goffoz Samba Member
Joined: May 09, 2007 Posts: 1486
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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I thought I'd resurrect this post
It popped up as part of a search, on SA headlights
I will be picking over a 80 mk1 scirocco tomorrow am.
Mostly because I'm interested in the 4round headlights, grill, relays and switches....
can't find anything saying if they 'll work on a vanagon or not
does anyone have an opinion ..and what else should I look to grabbing before this car is crushed?
thanks all opinions welcome |
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Robw_z Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2007 Posts: 983
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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goffoz wrote: |
I thought I'd resurrect this post
It popped up as part of a search, on SA headlights
I will be picking over a 80 mk1 scirocco tomorrow am.
Mostly because I'm interested in the 4round headlights, grill, relays and switches....
can't find anything saying if they 'll work on a vanagon or not
does anyone have an opinion ..and what else should I look to grabbing before this car is crushed?
thanks all opinions welcome |
I used to be into Sciroccos and while many parts should be saved from it before the crusher, I don't think it has anything of value for the Vanagon. The lights are almost certainly old sealed beams, they won't be relayed unless a PO did it, and the grill won't fit the Vanagon either of course.
FYI the most valuable parts from that car will be from the interior... most had special steering wheels(called Wolfsburg wheels), shift knobs, and the center console is also valuable. You will need a 24mm socket and probably a 3" ratchet extension thing to get the steering wheel. These parts are valuable to both Scirocco and Rabbit owners, and the steering wheel would fit a Vanagon. If the dash isn't cracked it'd be a real find. Sorry getting OT from Vanagons here...
-Rob
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axeman Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2009 Posts: 162 Location: east kent, uk
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:53 am Post subject: |
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K58 wrote: |
axeman
Did you build that light bar? It looks awesome and really fits well.
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only just read this so sorry for the delay i responce, the light bar was made by a local costom exhaust fabrecator., it is bolted through the deform panel and the mounts for the lights were made of some box section that was cut in half at 45 degrees. it is very strong, and most inportantly the lights don not vibrate,
if you want any more pics let me know.
neil _________________ 1957, 1200cc 30hp, big window, delux beetle, swedish modle, now living in france
1991 holdsworth villa 3, 2.1, uk van, now sold
1991 syncro doka uk van was 2.1 now B230, out with the b230 and in with a 1.8 20v, and 4 doors
1987 syncro westy was 1.6 jx now ej22 |
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JPrato Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2006 Posts: 788 Location: Livonia, NY
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:06 am Post subject: |
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Busdepot wrote: |
Some other vendors have also included black emblems instead of the correct chrome ones here and there. Again, I'm not sure if that is the case anymore. |
I wouldn't worry too much about getting a black emblem the chrome ones don't last. Our chrome one lasted two summers (garaged all the time) before the chrome started deteriorating. It's black now after a quick bead blasting and rattle can semigloss black painting. _________________ Joe
87 Syncro Tin Top project
84 Westy, 2.5L Subaru power
06 Subaru 2.5 turbo in waiting
46 Cessna 140 |
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zippyslug31 Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2007 Posts: 799 Location: Central Oregon
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:15 am Post subject: |
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axeman wrote: |
K58 wrote: |
axeman
Did you build that light bar? It looks awesome and really fits well.
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only just read this so sorry for the delay i responce, the light bar was made by a local costom exhaust fabrecator., it is bolted through the deform panel and the mounts for the lights were made of some box section that was cut in half at 45 degrees. it is very strong, and most inportantly the lights don not vibrate,
if you want any more pics let me know.
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Yes please, more pics!
I have a very similar thing in mind and would like to see how you did yours. _________________ previous:
'80 westy
current:
'90 syncro westy 2.5L subi, triple knob, 16" wheels.
'84 sunroof van, 2.1L motor. |
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axeman Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2009 Posts: 162 Location: east kent, uk
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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the light bar
the tabs for the lights to bolt too. i made these from box section steel the a cut in half at a 45 degree angle and then welded them to the bar.
this was the hard bit working out the angle of cut the bar so that it would sit forward enough so that the spot lights would not touch the grill, the grill i had on the van sits further forward than standard grill by about 14mm. there is also a a stud which is welded in to the bar for the mounting it to van. form memory is was m12X1.5 (19mm nut) i then mounted into the deform panel as this gives it a real strong and secure base.
if any one is interested in the bar is for sale as it is sitting in the garage doing nothing and i am a firm believer that thing should be used and not just stored away doing nothing.
thanks neil _________________ 1957, 1200cc 30hp, big window, delux beetle, swedish modle, now living in france
1991 holdsworth villa 3, 2.1, uk van, now sold
1991 syncro doka uk van was 2.1 now B230, out with the b230 and in with a 1.8 20v, and 4 doors
1987 syncro westy was 1.6 jx now ej22 |
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Racerrojo Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2006 Posts: 827 Location: ALBUQUERQUE 87120
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
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xoo00oox wrote: |
....Maybe this would make him happy. This is an '86 I put the old syle grill in and cut my own holes then put in aftermarket fog lights. This picture is from one of the Terryville CT. shows if anyone here goes to them.
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I was thinking on doing this since I have several pre-'86 grills that could be cut.
I had a SA on my '85 and loved the looks and the performance, now I drive an '87 and after i replaced the broken adjusters, installed HO light and relays, works great, but there's something about the the round lights, that does it for me
[/quote] _________________ Tight is tight... too tight is expensive!!!!
Too many vans and mostly all projects |
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soundmasterg Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 103 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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I also put the H4 lights in place of the sealed beams. Busdepot has a great price on these. |
Yes, we have a half price deal on Bosch H4 headlights. They're just $45 a pair (regularly $45 each) by themselves. However they're even cheaper if you buy them with the South African grill kit. You can add the Bosch H4 headlights PLUS a pair of German H4 bulbs for only $30 combined, which is an absolute steal.
Complete South African Grill Kit plus Bosch H4's and bulbs:
http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=1495
Bosch H4's only:
http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=0301600118 |
How long is that sale going on?
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zippyslug31 Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2007 Posts: 799 Location: Central Oregon
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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axeman wrote: |
the light bar
...images...
if any one is interested in the bar is for sale as it is sitting in the garage doing nothing and i am a firm believer that thing should be used and not just stored away doing nothing.
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Thanks for the pics Neil!
Wish it were a little larger diameter or I'd be all over it; sort of the look I'm going for.
Cheers. _________________ previous:
'80 westy
current:
'90 syncro westy 2.5L subi, triple knob, 16" wheels.
'84 sunroof van, 2.1L motor. |
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badassdubs Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2008 Posts: 209 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone have pics with the SA grill off? I need to see how the inner lights mount. Searched everywhere and found none. |
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trailnewt Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2008 Posts: 248 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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badassdubs wrote: |
Anyone have pics with the SA grill off? I need to see how the inner lights mount. Searched everywhere and found none. |
Here you go...
Brent _________________ '87 Syncro Westy TDI
Too many bicycles
Maybe an old unicycle around here somewhere |
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badassdubs Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2008 Posts: 209 Location: WA
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you. Your's must be the first one posted ever. |
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Bman Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 895 Location: South Coast, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: Tab needed for SA Grill? |
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Yes, the post with the grill off starts to help answer this question for me too. Does the SA grill need this tab below to mount on?
My Body Shop is about to paint my 1984 Doka and the PO had it fitted for the square, later Vanagon headlights. I do have plans to upgrade to the SA grill and lights, but was putting it off due to limited money reserves; however I may be forced to make that decision sooner, as the body shop wants to know if they should bend that tab back prior to painting?
Obviously I do not need that tab for square headlights, but do I need it to mount the SA Grill? I do not want to have to bend it after painting as the paint will crack. It will also force me to find another $400 for this project.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=503578&highlight=1984+doka
Thanks _________________ ~Bryan
1990 Burgandy Tintop (Wife's Daily Driver)
1989 Tiico Westfalia "Taj"
2WD Doka build thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=503578&highlight=
FaceHook:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/VW-T3-DokaSinka/129026087217120?ref=hl |
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Racerrojo Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2006 Posts: 827 Location: ALBUQUERQUE 87120
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Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Tab needed for SA Grill? |
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Bman wrote: |
Yes, the post with the grill off starts to help answer this question for me too. Does the SA grill need this tab below to mount on?
My Body Shop is about to paint my 1984 Doka and the PO had it fitted for the square, later Vanagon headlights. I do have plans to upgrade to the SA grill and lights, but was putting it off due to limited money reserves; however I may be forced to make that decision sooner, as the body shop wants to know if they should bend that tab back prior to painting?
Obviously I do not need that tab for square headlights, but do I need it to mount the SA Grill? I do not want to have to bend it after painting as the paint will crack. It will also force me to find another $400 for this project.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=503578&highlight=1984+doka
Thanks |
you can mount with out those tabs but will loose two of the five mounting points.
I swapped from square to round lights on my 87 Syncro, and ended up just cutting those tabs off a wrecked van and attached them to my van with self tapping screws, you can barely see them. (yes I'm getting rid of those crappy rectangular driving lights on the light bar)
you can check this post for other options
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=504430 _________________ Tight is tight... too tight is expensive!!!!
Too many vans and mostly all projects |
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