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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: What weld to use for body panels? Reply with quote

I am about to irradicate some rust issues on my bus. This will be my first time, so I was wondering if I should try to butt weld the new panel, or as a novice should I lap weld the new panel on and grind it down? Any other pointers would be appreciated. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

conventional wisdom is that butt weld is preferred because the lap weld may collect moisture and rust back out sooner.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it trace, pray, cut? That simple?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no authority, just gathering the courage to do it myself. I woud think the better the patch panel fits the hole, the easier it is going to be to weld and thus clean up afterward. Remember to stitch weld so as to keep the heat/warpage down. I am going to practice a bit on non essential stuff before I weld on my Bus. Check out the Body panels thread. there is some good info there.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take your time measuring fitting multiple times before you cut, it'll be a whole lot easier. Look through some build threads to get the idea. Buy the proper stuff to do it. Spend the money now do it right and only have to do it once.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you take your time measuring fitting multiple times before you cut, it'll be a whole lot easier. Look through some build threads to get the idea. Buy the proper stuff to do it. Spend the money now do it right and only have to do it once.

I've got a mig setup, and an angle grinder. Anything else I might need?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece-butt-welding-clamps-44751.html

These will help a ton. And practice and patience. Make sure you take your time. The heat will easily warp the metal.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if you weld like I do ...a " flap wheel " is good to clean up the welds
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are the best. Cheers. I appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you also want some ESAB (or equivalent) ez grind welding wire. you will thank me later. butt weld is way better. don't rush. take time to fit, test, fit, re fit as needed. i hate to tell you, but i have almost 40 hours alone in rockers on my 71. some of that was waiting for the POR 15/paint etc to dry, but i feel the repair is invisable. also, MEASURE YOUR OLD PANELS before you cut, and take into accout the thickness of the blade/cutting wheel you use. fo you get stuck, PM me, i love rust Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info skills, and I'll prepare for the hours involved. I love love love firing up the welder though. Something about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use some heat paste to keep those panels from warping
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