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shadetreetim Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2011 Posts: 1994 Location: Riverside, California
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Well that just sucks, Levi. Sorry to read this. I can understand waiting to check the rear swing arm adjustment to preserve hope, but, just think how good it will feel when you realize its just an alignment to fix the dog-tracking problem.
Git 'er dun!
Then you can move on to worrying fulltime about the Merc drivers insurance.
Since your already parting it out, I'll take all 4 wheels. _________________ Tim Potts
Doing my best every time I drive it to dispel the myth these Vanagons have to be slow!
'89 Vanagon Bluestar/Country Homes 1.8T & .77 4th
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Parabellum Samba Member
Joined: November 05, 2011 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:08 am Post subject: |
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Hello Levi
Sorry to hear and see the bad news. I am glad you are were not hurt. Perhaps the van can be fixed ?
Well good luck. Looks like it might have happened not that far from me.
Sorry, |
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WestyBob Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2004 Posts: 2346 Location: Portland, Oregon
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 11:22 am Post subject: |
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My 2 cents -- by any means necessary get it repaired 'cause they're getting scarce.
Jeffrey using bad taste ? That's why we luv'em in Pdx ... he can't move, nobody else can have 'em
Seriously sorry about the accident ... and just for being parked no less. There's a nice flash silver vanagon hardtop in my hood that got hit the same way while parked on the street. I try to keep all mine on the tarmac driveway when possible .... |
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edgood1 Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 2049 Location: Plymouth, MA
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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I would think that the rear trailing arm or its mounting brackets were bent, but certainly not the frame.
It takes a hell of an impact to bend the frame, like a direct impact with a lot of inertia. I don't tihnk a sideswipe could do it.
Get that rear suspension off, check it out. Repair as necessary and do a 4 wheel alignment. You'll be good as new. I would hope the "marcedes" owner's insurance will pay for the repair and your new paint job. _________________ 1987 Syncro Westfalia powered by Subaru
1963 Panel to Deluxe Bus project :::: (photo album)
'65 Westfalia |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Well, good news! Hallelujah and all that other stuff
Pulled off the left 2 wheels, and I can definitely see where the rear bolt for the toe has been skewed over, on the rear arm I can see separation lines in the caked on crap, which to me suggests it's bent underneath.
Front tie rod is in a major twist, barely able to rotate enough to allow the wheel to turn.
Not going to mess with any of it till the ins. co's have had their day in the sun, just giving it a cursory exam, but it's all good to know.
Alignment of the rear end is something I've never done myself, leaving it to the domain of Loogy and anyone else with the equipment for it, so I had never even examined how the rear components come together before. Now I can see why everyone knew it wasn't going to be a bent frame.
very cool
time to get prepared for waiting on the next chapters.
Thanks to everyone who pitched in their thoughts on this! _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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70coupyel Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 1657 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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levi good to hear. Do you think that your after market bumper helped save you from more damage? _________________
TheAndante wrote: |
Saying that specs are different than dimensions doesn't make sense. Porsche specs/VW specs/engineering specs are nothing but a series of dimensions,sizes,percentages,measurements, etc. |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=338946&highlight=
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83 Westy Waterboxer |
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mtwrench540 Samba Member
Joined: October 25, 2009 Posts: 351 Location: monterey,va
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject: TOTALED |
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amazing how tough these vans are,and yes your bumpers helped you big time!!!! and no frame,you are unibody!!! _________________ 87 wolfsberg,74 181w/1915 and lots of patina! learned to fix vw's from hot vw mag in 1964,VWOA instructor,DSM,69 to73,service mgr at different porsche-audi dealers etc,etc,now retired!!! first vw new 64,transplanted 356 eng in 65,400characters are not enough space!! |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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70coupyel wrote: |
levi good to hear. Do you think that your after market bumper helped save you from more damage? |
Like I had said earlier, no one comes down this road at less than 40 mph, and if you saw the damage to the benz .. geez I should've taken pics of it.
It was a new c 240, a small car but still 3500 pounds. To rip off his wheels, and do such little damage to my van (other than the bumpers), ... amazing to me.
Has to help that the benz is low
This rear bumper has been "involved" before with me.
And the damage I received from that one below:
_________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
https://youtu.be/cSrL0BXsO40 |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: TOTALED |
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mtwrench540 wrote: |
amazing how tough these vans are,and yes your bumpers helped you big time!!!! and no frame,you are unibody!!! |
Unibody but there are frame rails right?
I just figured that with that much energy transferred, it could've been twisted, and I'm going down the road like an unwanted dog, rear end hanging out to the right. People slowing down to get behind me and point. hehe.
Hell, my slider door isn't operating the way it was, all made sense to me. _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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dixoncj Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2004 Posts: 1083 Location: Charleston, SC
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Damn Levi - that sux. Are those Van-Cafe bumpers?
I think I see a set in the future for my '91 Westy. I used to have Van Cafe's on a Syncro and they seemed tough as nails. It appears that they truly are. Seems because they sit "away" from the body of your van more than the GoWesty's, they can protect the body better in an impact. I'd welcome your unfortunate real world opinion.
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juanb Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2009 Posts: 535 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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As someone who parks in the street a few times each week, I've followed this thread with horror.
I'm glad the damage doesn't seem as bad as it did at the beginning, and, given that you are ok, I'm glad you were there to witness the accident and call the cops. I always imagine the nightmare of walking into a hit-and-run-wrecked Westy.
Now, here's hoping that the insurance company pays up as it should, and you end up with an as good or better van than you had before. _________________ 1989 Westy AT, 2.2 GoWesty.
We drove it to Argentina: http://www.vanenvan.com |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, please don't give up on it. I can't see that the frame could be harmed by the directional hit and scraping up the side. I'd say the Vanagon stood up well to the Benz. We are a hearty bunch. _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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dixoncj wrote: |
Damn Levi - that sux. Are those Van-Cafe bumpers?
I think I see a set in the future for my '91 Westy. I used to have Van Cafe's on a Syncro and they seemed tough as nails. It appears that they truly are. Seems because they sit "away" from the body of your van more than the GoWesty's, they can protect the body better in an impact. I'd welcome your unfortunate real world opinion.
CD |
Honestly, I've considered many times selling these bumpers.
They're from aircooled.net
Problem is they're damn heavy, front is around 100# and the rear is heavier.
But it's not just the weight.
If that weight was placed in the middle, no big deal, but the farther out you place that weight, the more it adversely effects your handling.
I really hate that.
In fact I bought these from a syncro owner who wanted to get away from all this extra weight and it's effects.
If I lived in the middle of Kansas, there's no way I'd keep these. _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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juanb wrote: |
As someone who parks in the street a few times each week, I've followed this thread with horror.
I'm glad the damage doesn't seem as bad as it did at the beginning, and, given that you are ok, I'm glad you were there to witness the accident and call the cops. I always imagine the nightmare of walking into a hit-and-run-wrecked Westy.
Now, here's hoping that the insurance company pays up as it should, and you end up with an as good or better van than you had before. |
Me too! You know, what I've been thinking about lately is a couple cameras mounted up at the front and back corner, and on a 12 or so hour looped recorder.
Both for recording the hit n' runner while it's unoccupied and as evidence for fault in a traffic accident.
That data would have come in handy several times lately _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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climberjohn Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2005 Posts: 1840 Location: Portland Orygun
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Levi,
I am glad things are looking favorable for you.
(and don't mind Carterzest too much, we keep him on a short leash here in Portland.)
Good vibes your way,
CJ _________________ '86 Westy, 2.5 Subaru power
Know your limits. Exceed them often. |
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yeh Carterzest isn't as much fun anymore, it's either/or the short leash or he doesn't do 2WD anymore sigh >>> syncro lust _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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Bman Samba Member
Joined: April 28, 2005 Posts: 895 Location: South Coast, Oregon
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DAIZEE Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2010 Posts: 7552 Location: Greater Toronto Area Ontario West Side
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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X 2 underlined and exclamation mark. Just goes to show you not all vehicles created equally. Have fingers crossed for insurance!!!! _________________ '09 2.5L Jetta 5 cylinder, 5 spd, super turbo, see thread in H2O Cooled Jetta, etc...
83.5 Vanagon L Riviera Model with 98 1.9L TD AAZ 4 speed Daily Driver 3 out of 4 seasons (sold)
84 Vanagon GL Wolfsburg Westy WBX 4 speed (sold) |
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carterzest Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 3842 Location: Eagle, ID/Sun Valley, ID
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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DAIZEE wrote: |
Yeh Carterzest isn't as much fun anymore, it's either/or the short leash or he doesn't do 2WD anymore sigh >>> syncro lust |
Shhhhhhhh _________________ Happiness=Portland, Oregon in the rearview mirror! |
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