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Sonny
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 Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:12 am Post subject: 009 or 010 dist |
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| I found a new 010 yes new in a barn.I have 009 on now its a 1776with 110 cam 041 heads.What gains will I get from the 010. |
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keifernet
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Faster advance curve and more stable/steady advance through the range.
The 010 is far superior in quality to the 009, even the german made 009
Glenn I'm sure will fill you in on more details, he is the 010 guru!  |
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stevemariott
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If it's *new* (and looks it), sell it to a vintage collector who will pay the bucks for a mint badge and other pieces. Then buy a modern distributor with the ca$h. That's what I would do.
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Glenn 
Mr. 010
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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The 010 is superior to the 009. It has a more agressive advance and they run smoother. The new 009s have some serious quality control issues.
It doesn't matter if it's new or used... use it. You should take it apart, clean and lubricate it. I have seem distriutors that have been sitting for years that have some corosion.
You can tell if it's truely new by the o-ring. The original o-rings were tan in color and the new ones are black. The condensor should have a yellow wire and the cap should be dark brown.
Here's my NOS Bosch 010.
And here's what the original tuenup parts look like compared to the current parts.
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DaveM
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Location: Dry side of Oregon
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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damn glenn, the badge on that nos 010 is making me drool... I am still searching for a perfect 010 badge and am willing to trade 2 010 cores for one, just to get a perfect one.
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Glenn
Mr. 010
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| DaveM wrote: |
| damn glenn, the badge on that nos 010 is making me drool... |
Then this will make you wet your pants.....
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DaveM
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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nah, I already got some of those:
and some spares
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keifernet
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Okay Kids, quit showing off!   |
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TimGud
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't you sell rebuilt 010's Glenn? |
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Glenn
Mr. 010
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't you sell rebuilt 010's Glenn? |
Yes I do.... http://www.glenn-ring.com/4sale
I rebuild all of the old Bosch cast iron mechanical advance distributors.
Bosch "383", VJ4BR8, VJ4BR18, VJ4BR25, 231 129 010, 231 129 019 and 231 129 022.
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flatfour
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| The 010 all the way. I love mine that I got from Glenn. |
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vrsechslvr
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As we all know by know the 009's have serious quality control problems. I can account for that first hand. I'm on my second 009 and I'm not impressed.
Glenn, this question goes out to you.
Would you recommend a 010 or a 019 for a stock 1600dp? And what is the price from you?
I need a dizzy that I can use now and take to my new motor.
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65bug
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Question for you guys,
Can you actually feel a difference in the way the motor runs between a new 009 and one of Glenn's 010????
Crap, I just bought a new 009 for my car from Berg. 56.00 too! Dam, I want one of those for my new motor Glenn! |
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Glenn
Mr. 010
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| vrsechslvr wrote: |
As we all know by know the 009's have serious quality control problems. I can account for that first hand. I'm on my second 009 and I'm not impressed.
Glenn, this question goes out to you.
Would you recommend a 010 or a 019 for a stock 1600dp? And what is the price from you?
I need a dizzy that I can use now and take to my new motor. |
For a bone stock, the 019 is probibly best. It has a similar advance curve to the 009. It also works well with a mild performance engine.
The 010 works well with mild to high performance.
Can you feel the difference?
I sure did. I replaced the German 009 I had in my 1904cc with Berg HEI ignition with a 010 and noticed the improvement the first time i stepped on the gas. After a week I reinstalled the 009. The performance was a serious drop and I put the 010 back in.
I will rebuild your distributor and sell you one outright.
http://www.glenn-ring.com/4sale or contact me privately.
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jardindelalma
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where could one get the parts needed to do the rebuild themselves?
lookin at an 019 that needs rebuild and love to tinker!
hows about for an 010 as well....
thanks folks! |
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Glenn
Mr. 010
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| jardindelalma wrote: |
where could one get the parts needed to do the rebuild themselves?
lookin at an 019 that needs rebuild and love to tinker!
hows about for an 010 as well....
thanks folks! |
Email me. I can supply you with a Bosch shim kit and insulator kit. I also have access to some of the other parts. But not all are available.
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jardindelalma
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thanks glenn...i will contact you as soon as i get the core to work with...
while i am deciding...
we have spoke about the 009..... 010 ......and 019
whats the story with the vjr4 br8???? |
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Glenn
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| whats the story with the vjr4 br8???? |
The BR8 and BR25 are early versions that became the 019 and 010.
The BR8 has the same weights and curve as the 019.
Thr BR25 has the same weights and curve as the 010.
The newer 019 and 010 have a design change where the shafts spin in brass bushings while the older BR8 and BR25 spin in the cast iron body without bushings.
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| thanks glenn...i will contact you as soon as i get the core to work with... |
I do sell them outright and currently have a 010 in stock.
http://www.glenn-ring.com/4sale
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blankmange
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn: do you work on 050's as well?
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Glenn
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| Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenn: do you work on 050's as well? |
Not yet.
I haven't bothered to work on 009 since they are cheapr to buy new than to rebuild. I haven't had the oppertunity to work on a 050. The parts i get are "generic" Bosch kits and fit many different models.
If you want to send me a 050, i'll be happy to take a look at it and if I can fix it, i'll do it for the cost of parts and shipping. But only on the 1st one I get. Kind of a R&D discount.
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