What to do with a rotted 74 Super?

Altema

My father is the original owner of this car, but he parked it in 1984 and it has not moved under it's own power since then. It was in the garage for a couple years, then he had me pull it out to the driveway so my brother could convert the garage to an apartment. It has sat outdoors ever since and is completely rotten... the pans have even fallen down. The engine does not turn over, and the brake drums are stuck.
Only positive note I can see is that it's all original, and everything is there (sunroof and radio too) except the outside rearview mirrors which appear to be stolen.

Would it even be worthwhile listing here as a parts car?
Should I just pull the engine and trans and have him scrap the rest?

Paul

60ragtop · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:46 pm Post subject:

Just scrap the whole thing, a locked up motor, hasn't moved on it's own since 84 Shocked

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Loqutis · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject:

Depends on how rotten is rotten. if it is just the floor pans and the motor that need replaced i see no reason to scrap it.
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Q-Dog · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:29 pm Post subject:

One man's trash ... yadda, yadda, yadda.

List it on the Samba and see if you get any interest. This could be ideal for someone trying to restore a similar car, especially if yours is all original. Even if it is too far gone to repair it could still be a good pattern to see how things are supposed to be, and could yield some small bits and pieces.

Also, does it have a title?
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JerryMCarter1 · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:41 pm Post subject:

Just give it to someone

Maybe they could get after it !

Jerry
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7vw3 · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject:

If the dash is in even half-way descent shape with no cracks, you shouldn't scrap it. Same with the frame head. There are a few parts on a Super that are either ridiculously expensive to replace, or are no longer made. just for those reasons some one should either come and save it, or take it apart and save those pieces.

EXJAY · Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject:

Altema · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:44 am Post subject:

I'll post some pics soon. The body has no rust free panels except maybe the roof. I had to spray the door hinges with PB Blaster to even get them open.
He kept it in good shape and always got things fixed immediately, but that's a moot point since the whole car was let go. The dash is fine I think since all the glass is intact, and the bumper shocks too since he never had more than a fender bump in it.

Paul

EXJAY · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:52 am Post subject:

the 74 SB had alot of one year only parts that are no longer available in the aftermarket or very hard to find. do some research before you decide to junk any parts. Im sure there are plenty of us on here that are looking for parts.
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marklock · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:10 am Post subject:

I maybe interested in some parts, let me know if you part it. Hell I may take the whole thing if the price is right.

Altema · Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject:

Altema · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:17 am Post subject:

Sorry for the delay, my father was taken to emergency and admitted, and we've been dealing with that for the last week or so. However, he did confirm he will let the bug go. Here's some phone pics. I'll put up a FS ad in a few days if you guys think that's the best way to go.

Paul

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TurKuaz · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:48 am Post subject:

It is a shame to let her go after all these years. I have seen cars in far worst conditions being restored. I believe you can fix this yourself with a few tools and some helping hands.

How bad are the channels and floorpans? My bug had shit loads of rust when i stripped her down, I couldn't weld but I learnt. My old man is a car restorer so he helped when he could and I learnt alot from the guys on this forum.

If you are apt with tools and good with following instructions and want to keep this car in the family then I believe that it can be done with time, dedication and patient as well as a little money.

You are fortunate that you live in the states, parts are readily available and are at a reasonable price. It also seems that you have space in your yard which means you have somewhere to work. I suggest that you ask a local mechanic to take a look at the engine or open up another post requesting help on how to get her started.

I had the same problem you did and this link got my engine started:

http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/htm/eng_strt.htm

All the best with your decision, if you do let her go I do hope you wont scarp her but pass her on to some who would make use of her.

All the best.

EXJAY · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:43 am Post subject:

That looks borderline in my book to tackle a resto. Hows the floors/channels? Hopefully you will find it a good home but if you gotta scrap her be sure to remove alot of the OE pieces such as hubcaps, turn lens, trim, (those bumper rubber strips arnt cheap), and what ever is good inside. Im sure you could be a good donor to keep another SB on the road if anything.
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JerryMCarter1 · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:26 am Post subject:

This car has to have sedimental value or else you should not touch it !
For every dollar you put into it you’re going to get $.25 back.
I hope you have lots of money and you have some very excellent welding skills,-- and be a master body man and mechanic.
You are also going to need several years of work and a garage to do it in!
I see well over a thousand hours of free labor and well over $6,000 in materials

Good Luck

Jerry
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19super73 · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:27 am Post subject:

Generally a car in that shape is only worth repairing or restoring if you have a strong family attachment to it. Realize you will never get even 1/2 or 2/3's of your money back if you do fix it up, it will have to be done because you like the car and it's history.

If there isn't a strong family attachment to the car, sell it whole to someone who wants to tackle that project or part it out and scrap the rest.
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Altema · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:03 am Post subject:

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JerryMCarter1 · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:53 am Post subject:

this is my final my man!

I would never sell that car ----
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absolutley never ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Jerry
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