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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First the long side rocker has 3 distinct ridges in it from where the panel was bent on a brake, leaving hard lines not a smooth curve. To say the least, I will not be using this on my bus.
Look at the pictures and you can see the ridges.....
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That looks like it was damaged during shipping not bent on a brake...from those pics.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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First the long side rocker has 3 distinct ridges in it from where the panel was bent on a brake, leaving hard lines not a smooth curve. To say the least, I will not be using this on my bus.
Look at the pictures and you can see the ridges.....
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That looks like it was damaged during shipping not bent on a brake...from those pics.


It was damaged a bit in shipping but these are three even ridges that run the entire lenght of the rocker. Definately bent on a brake.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had several sills from Autocraft (and one fitted last week), never seen anything like that.

Looks more like some sort of stress, possibly with heavy weight lent on it in transit.

Sure you're not willing it to be 'bent on a brake' like that?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey 56reddy, if you can't install that lower valence & lower nose section let me know, I'll take them off your hands. Will they take the long side panel back for return? That panel looks like scrap-yard junk to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I spent some time with the AC cargo rocker and quarter panel. The rocker was bent long-wise; I originally thought it was shipping damage, but the tweakage was right at the middle drip hole, so it may have been munged when they added those. I straightened it out, and forgot to take a pic. I put a slight dent in it when I straightened it, which makes me think it was a construction flaw, but I have no way to prove it.

However, the quarter panel had glaring issues; here it is up against the rocker, one shot lined up each way. Way not enough curve in it. I tried to re-curve it and ended up just ruining it.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KF C-pillar piece - flange isn't wide/deep enough. This has been on for a while now; I planned to just extend it, but if they make better ones now, I may just get another one.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of the KF quarter section. The door screw holes didn't line up, so I removed that section and I'll put it back on after I get the rest done. I still need to massage this piece, as the flange is too deep here, which doesn't let it sit flush with the host metal.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, the quarter panel had glaring issues; here it is up against the rocker, one shot lined up each way. Way not enough curve in it. I tried to re-curve it and ended up just ruining it.



Did you contact them? I wonder if Autocraft will address the issue and ship one out asap like Gerson would.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you end up hearing anything back? I was about to order some inner and outer rocker sections for both sides, but this looks scary...

What's the good word?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: AC in America???? Reply with quote

I don't think you are seeing many USA Autocraft installs due to nobody having their parts from over the pond. STILL WAITING ALSO.
Ordered 9/11/11 for 9/15/2011 ship date. So (2) months.............. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here, had to cancel my orders due to waiting 44 days (Paypal limit is 45 days). Their products are top notch, but totally unavailable. The American supplier of Autocraft should NOT be advertising products for sale that he does not have in stock or no knowledge of when he will get them. Sorry gotta call the good with the bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From another thread... how the Gerson corner was fit (with pie cuts).

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 3:34 am    Post subject: Re: AC in America???? Reply with quote

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I don't think you are seeing many USA Autocraft installs due to nobody having their parts from over the pond. STILL WAITING ALSO.
Ordered 9/11/11 for 9/15/2011 ship date. So (2) months.............. Confused


I think getting panels in from overseas just takes a long time regardless of the direction they are going.

KF are the only company to produce a full cargo floor for rhd buses, so I was happy to place an order with their local UK agent back in the spring. It was due to be delivered in a shipment in August, but was delayed. I believe it's about to hit our shores around now.

These things take time as products have to be manufactured and consignments consolidated to get the best price for shipping. If they sent every order individually, this thread would be full of complaints about the ridiculous costs for overseas shipping.. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was going to sell anything, I would buy as much product up front as possible.
Right now it feels like back in the ole days when you "front " some one some cash so he could buy you a bag Wink that he doesn't even have?
Then days later he finally shows with such bag that has obviously been "pinched". Your grateful for the help but still left scratchin' your nuts?????
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not wise to keep large stock.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rockers, outriggers, battery trays, front floor, lower nose, are needed on almost every bus. Definitely keep these in stock and specialty stuff have to be ordered.
I ordered lower nose skin, outer front floors, and skylight repair section.
None of which are super special pieces.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the very least, you need to keep at least ONE of each item you're selling right? I want to be a Canadian retailer for Autocraft, I will happily front cash for at least 2 of each item Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:51 pm    Post subject: Supply in a foreign land Reply with quote

It's really interesting and useful to hear all of your experiences and feedback.

I don't want to speak for Francisco at Vintage Wagon, but if he's anything like us, I imagine the level of interest in our parts took everyone a little by surprise. We're continuing to ship out air orders to try to build up a stock on your side of the pond (another one went out late last week), but we've all realised that something a little more significant is required. To that end, we're working on getting a 'very' large crate of parts put together. I'm out of the office until Friday, but when i get back in I'll post up a picture to give you an idea of how much stock will be heading over.

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At the very least, you need to keep at least ONE of each item you're selling right? I want to be a Canadian retailer for Autocraft, I will happily front cash for at least 2 of each item Smile


That's a kind/brave/potentially expensive offer Smile Obviously it's very early days with the US market, and Vintage Wagen are the first distribtor that have shown a serious interest in us (to the point that Francisco actually came to see us in the UK!!!). I believe this affords them the best chance to make the situation work, and I'm sure that by working closely together we'll soon get to the point where we can supply the majority of our range in very good time.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Supply in a foreign land Reply with quote

Auto Craft wrote:
It's really interesting and useful to hear all of your experiences and feedback.

I don't want to speak for Francisco at Vintage Wagon, but if he's anything like us, I imagine the level of interest in our parts took everyone a little by surprise. We're continuing to ship out air orders to try to build up a stock on your side of the pond (another one went out late last week), but we've all realised that something a little more significant is required. To that end, we're working on getting a 'very' large crate of parts put together. I'm out of the office until Friday, but when i get back in I'll post up a picture to give you an idea of how much stock will be heading over.

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At the very least, you need to keep at least ONE of each item you're selling right? I want to be a Canadian retailer for Autocraft, I will happily front cash for at least 2 of each item Smile


That's a kind/brave/potentially expensive offer Smile Obviously it's very early days with the US market, and Vintage Wagen are the first distribtor that have shown a serious interest in us (to the point that Francisco actually came to see us in the UK!!!). I believe this affords them the best chance to make the situation work, and I'm sure that by working closely together we'll soon get to the point where we can supply the majority of our range in very good time.

Cheers,
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What's your verdict/thoughts on the two pictured posts above (thom and 56reddy). Rocker issue and rocker issue...

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Supply in a foreign land Reply with quote

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Auto Craft wrote:
It's really interesting and useful to hear all of your experiences and feedback.

I don't want to speak for Francisco at Vintage Wagon, but if he's anything like us, I imagine the level of interest in our parts took everyone a little by surprise. We're continuing to ship out air orders to try to build up a stock on your side of the pond (another one went out late last week), but we've all realised that something a little more significant is required. To that end, we're working on getting a 'very' large crate of parts put together. I'm out of the office until Friday, but when i get back in I'll post up a picture to give you an idea of how much stock will be heading over.

Azenis wrote:
At the very least, you need to keep at least ONE of each item you're selling right? I want to be a Canadian retailer for Autocraft, I will happily front cash for at least 2 of each item Smile


That's a kind/brave/potentially expensive offer Smile Obviously it's very early days with the US market, and Vintage Wagen are the first distribtor that have shown a serious interest in us (to the point that Francisco actually came to see us in the UK!!!). I believe this affords them the best chance to make the situation work, and I'm sure that by working closely together we'll soon get to the point where we can supply the majority of our range in very good time.

Cheers,
Nige


What's your verdict/thoughts on the two pictured posts above (thom and 56reddy). Rocker issue and rocker issue...

Cheers!
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I can tell you about the rocker issue because me and 56reddy both ordered long rockers plus a couple other things.

That one long rocker was the only one I received when I should have received 2 and after I complained and sent pictures, I was told they fixed the problem and would send me the one I never got and a replacement for the one that has a crease in it.

That was over 2 weeks ago and I still have not received what I was missing or the replacement.

After all the prays about the AC panels I have to tell you I'm not that impressed. The wait is way to long and the product not that great. I'm not saying they don't have nice metal but it's not all that great.

Just my opinion!!!!
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