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52deluxebug Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2011 Posts: 24 Location: Rugby, UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:51 am Post subject: My 1952 Panel Van Resto |
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Just thought you might be interested in having a look at where I am upto restoring my 1952 Barn Door Panel Van.
Here's my blog - let me know what you think!!
http://statusvw1952van.blogspot.com
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LAGrunthaner Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2007 Posts: 5509 Location: 1st Coast
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:42 am Post subject: Re: my 1952 Panel Van Resto |
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Wow I'm surprised this is your first post 52deluxebug. Congratulations on your great project and your very first post here on the samba.
52deluxebug wrote: |
Just thought you might be interested in having a look at where I am upto restoring my 1952 Barn Door Panel Van.
Here's my blog - let me know what you think!!
http://statusvw1952van.blogspot.com
Thanks! |
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rubbachicken Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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very nice, i'll be keeping a watch out
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52deluxebug Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2011 Posts: 24 Location: Rugby, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 2:09 am Post subject: |
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Hey - thanks guys. I appreciate your comments. |
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Gyro1780 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2007 Posts: 92 Location: Surrey, United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:38 am Post subject: |
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I've bookmarked your blog so i can keep an eye on your progress. Best of luck with the resto. Your work looks great so far. |
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Quintus Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2010 Posts: 173 Location: the Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like you are doing it thoroughly, i am interested _________________ 2005 VW Lupo
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52deluxebug Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2011 Posts: 24 Location: Rugby, UK
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Hey - thanks for the great comments guys - really appreciate that! |
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52deluxebug Samba Member
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52deluxebug Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:17 am Post subject: |
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Been doing more work to the front chassis - more pics on the blog and more to go on over the weekend:
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52deluxebug Samba Member
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52deluxebug Samba Member
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Lazaa Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2011 Posts: 228 Location: Voiron, France
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:18 am Post subject: |
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What a nice chassis !!
Great work
But one thing about the 2 stops of the rear spring plates, they are still completely bended.
Maybe it would easier to sort this out before re unit chassis and body ?... |
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52deluxebug Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2011 Posts: 24 Location: Rugby, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:26 am Post subject: |
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hey, thanks!
I had a look at the rear stops, and it must just be the angle of the photo, because they are millimetre perfect on each side, plus with this being re-inforced cast metal, they would not bend, it would simply snap.
Thanks for checking though - I do appreciate any help / advice. _________________ http://statusvw1952van.blogspot.com
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Lazaa Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2011 Posts: 228 Location: Voiron, France
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:03 am Post subject: |
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52deluxebug wrote: |
plus with this being re-inforced cast metal, they would not bend, it would simply snap. |
I don't think so. It's seems to be a recurrent problem...
Take a look at this thread, this problem has already been mentionned there :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...p;start=20
But if yours is OK so that's great
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Why does this happen?
I assumed they were ment to be bent Because I have two complete rear ends in the garage and they both have curved torsion bar ends. Both are curved exactly the same amount. One was off a 52 samba the other off a jan 51 panel. |
Pictures from your blog :
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Lowdown Dirty Rat Samba Member
Joined: June 25, 2005 Posts: 878 Location: Cornwall, UK
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: |
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I'm still not convinced this wasn't factory, atleast to some degree.
Anyone have a NOS torsion bar housing? |
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Lazaa Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2011 Posts: 228 Location: Voiron, France
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm maybe...that can make sense because of the circle described by the end of the axle, but that bend seems a little exagerate...
Maybe they have been increased little by lilttle each time the spring plate came to bump on it ?
Btw, those on my 54 chassis looks perfectly straight so...
(although they are bended on my 53... )
This need investigation
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52deluxebug Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2011 Posts: 24 Location: Rugby, UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:10 am Post subject: |
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The odd thing is, if I measure between the stop and the chassis, it is the exact millimetre difference on each side. If this had twisted, then surely they would be different on each side. It is EXACTLY the same difference even to the fraction of a millimetre.
Will do some more investigating!!!!
Maybe they changed the design on the later barndoors to straight type ones??? _________________ http://statusvw1952van.blogspot.com
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52panelvan Samba Member
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2179 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:13 am Post subject: |
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If you look at the later units they are very much reinforced with strengthener ribs on the inside. The early housings don't have those ribs, so that is why they might have bendt ! That is forged steel so it wouldn't snap. It is similar quality as mild alloy steel, they are also welded to the torsion bar housings and that to the frame, they are NOT cast grey iron !
I can easily see the old version bend under severe loads for decades, especially since the spring plates give assymmetrical force to the stops. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
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52deluxebug Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:07 am Post subject: |
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I'm not convinced.
If you think about the load and forces at play - you get the most force when the van accelerates, on a van with reduction boxes, what happens to the wheels? They bend inwards at the bottom, that is the exact opposite direction to the alleged bend. Plus, look at when a van is cornering, you get more force on one side than the other, again giving without question an uneven wear pattern. Its a panel van with loading doors on one side, given its inevitable use, there is bound to be great loading on one side than the other, again leading to uneven wear.
The fact that the bend of these is to fraction of a millimetre exactly the same on each side, I can come to no other conclusion that its supposed to be like that. If they had bent through use, then you would not get them evenly bent.
Plus, the material is clearly cast. You have the casting marks and typical 'rough' finish from the sand in which they were cast. Forged steel is a much smoother finish from when the metal is shaped whilst its still molten, you don't get such a rough finish from forged steel as you do in cast material.
Hope some of my ramblings make sense!!!!! Cheers to all! _________________ http://statusvw1952van.blogspot.com
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