Where would you mount an electric winch? |
Keep it traditional, bolt it to the front bumper. |
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Keep it stealth, mount it under the van. |
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Keep it more functional/versatile, receivers front and rear. |
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Whats a winch ? |
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Weenches, we donneed no steenking weenches! |
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canasync Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2010 Posts: 656 Location: BC
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:56 am Post subject: Electric winch mounting and winch options. |
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Started this topic in my custom bumper build thread but I think that there is enough interest to start this one as well.
I have been trying to decide about where to mount my winch. If it is mounted on the bumper or in the old spare tire area it will be out of the way and more secure from theft but if I keep it removable using 2" receivers then I can relocate it front to rear as needed.
Mounting it under the van in the spare tire area keeps the center of gravity lower, looks stealthy, and free's up space on the bumper but I worry about water crossings, mud, and being able to reach the free spool lever and plug ins if the nose is buried in mud or rocks.
The receiver mount would give me the most versatility but can have its drawbacks as well. _________________ 1987 Syncro
3 knobs
PumpeDüse TDI (17mm Garret Turbo, bigger injectors, stage 4 malone tune, intercooled)
Cruise Control
Remote Start/locks
Custom Lift
Custom Bumpers with receivers
Coast Mountain Hightop - Comming Soon
1985 2wd Vanagon Pre-runner in the making
soon to be powered by 2.5L Subaru
Custom Lift
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andy syncro-nutz Samba Member
Joined: August 22, 2010 Posts: 539 Location: Upper Ottawa Valley
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Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just do front and rear
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joseph928 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2011 Posts: 2114 Location: flagstaff az.
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject: winch |
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I like the winch on the bumper. I have plans for the spare tire,2nd gas tank? I have an 8,000 lb. winch, don't think the 2 inch hitch would hold the torque . Would like a custom bumper and winch mt. but if the cost is to high i'll go with a Gary Lee mt. and use my stock bumper.But I will keep me eye on this to see where it goes. _________________ 1987 syncro westy tin top sun roof , GW2.3, rear locker, decoupler, Gary Lee tire rack & winch mount, lift, south african grill, big brakes , rhein alloy ,15 BFG AT, Fiamma 10 foot awning ,140 watt rear 85 watt front solar , mppt, truckfridge, automatic fire extinguishing system, tencent oil cooler, And a RMW SS exhaust! - 1971 bug convertible 1776 engine- 2010 Subaru turbo - 1993 Toyota 4x4 truck - 1999 Harley 95 CI, big bore, Andrews cams . Also 80-84- vans. Stock 65 sunroof bug. |
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hans j Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 2715 Location: Salt Lake City UT
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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My plan is to use a receiver mount in the reinforced bumpers I build, front and rear. I wouldn't need a winch for 95% of my trips but if I do it would be nice to be able to put it in either end, or possibly hook it on to another car that might be stuck and I couldn't get to it.
I think some Range Rovers had a center mounted winch with a pulley system so you could run it through the front or back. That would be pretty cool and we do have the space but you would want it set up before you enter the obstacle where you might get stuck.
You might be able to decrease the force the winch pulls using a pulley block? Not sure on my physics on that one.
I do like Das Mule's set up in the spare tire area though!
I am also thinking if you are planning on building or mounting the winch to the bumper, it's going to have to be reinforced anyway. A 2" receiver is going to be attached to the same bumper, so that's why I figure on using the receiver to mount it.
http://www.bb4wa.com/articles/Accessories-winch.html this guy doesn't like hitch mounted winches, and has some very valid points for not liking them.
I am not opposed to just a front bumper mounted winch, I just like the versatility of either end. Searching more on the internet reveals mixed results on peoples opinions on receiver mount winches. It will be interesting to read as more people chime in, hopefully with experiences with both. _________________ 1986 Canadian Syncro Westy TDI - 1989 Syncro Single Cab - 2001 Audi S4 - 1981 VW Caddy ABA - 1980 VW Caddy EV - 1973 VW T-181 |
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Love My Westy Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 1839
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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The last thing I want is to haul a winch along on highway trips. I don't even have my winch mounted permently on my 4WD pickup. It's about 90 extra pounds to haul. I use it for Baja trips or southern Utah where I might need it but why haul it otherwise. I vote for the receiver mount front and rear. |
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Alaric.H Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2009 Posts: 2529 Location: Sandy Springs GA
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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The ones with the air compressor built in do double duty so they are pretty handy. |
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Syncroincity Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1557 Location: New York City
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tencentlife Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 10078 Location: Abiquiu, NM, USA
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Can't put the spare Yoko in the clamshell, too big, and I had a cheapo winch laying around, so:
box tube thru the front crush beam
converted the winch pan/fairlead bracket
extra braces to the bottom welded seam
hung the winch on some 4" C-section between the frame rails
cutout in stock bumper
150A breaker protects aux batt feeder and a 6ga feeder to front
switchgear behind grille right side, fused 10ga feeders continue on to left side to
a bank of 4-relays that power all headlights and low-speed rad fan manual activation
winch remote socket mounted in grille
or this switch converts turn signal stalk switch to winch controller, at the same time activates idle speed boost and
a big warning light when it is in winch mode. Small rocker with blue LED is rad fan low speed activation for offroading, also boosts idle speed. _________________ Shop for unique Vanagon accessories at the Vanistan shop:
https://intrepidoverland.com/vanistan/
Please don't PM here, I will not reply.
Experience is kryptonite to doctrine.
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mmmdiesel Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2005 Posts: 148 Location: Fort Langley, BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Well after nearly spending a night in my van tonight with the bumper wedged on a log and the van in well over 2' of water, I would definately vote for receiver mounted. Thanks to the case of beer which motivated the two good ole boys in the lifted Ranger who gave me a tug. This would have of course been avoidable if I had walked through this section of trail in question and if I had been travelling with another vehicle. _________________ 1998 T4 Caravelle 2.5 Tdi
2000 Eurovan Multivan 2.8 VR6
1960's Heilite Single Wheel |
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canasync Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2010 Posts: 656 Location: BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Damn Tencent thats awesome, I love it!!
I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half.
Mind you, if we would have had an axe, shovel, and proper recovery gear OR a second vehicle we would have been out alot quicker too _________________ 1987 Syncro
3 knobs
PumpeDüse TDI (17mm Garret Turbo, bigger injectors, stage 4 malone tune, intercooled)
Cruise Control
Remote Start/locks
Custom Lift
Custom Bumpers with receivers
Coast Mountain Hightop - Comming Soon
1985 2wd Vanagon Pre-runner in the making
soon to be powered by 2.5L Subaru
Custom Lift |
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canasync Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2010 Posts: 656 Location: BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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I was trying to keep my friend anonymous but since he made his post while I was writing mine I wonder if he'll allow me to post the video.
Maybe I should I wait till the wound has healed _________________ 1987 Syncro
3 knobs
PumpeDüse TDI (17mm Garret Turbo, bigger injectors, stage 4 malone tune, intercooled)
Cruise Control
Remote Start/locks
Custom Lift
Custom Bumpers with receivers
Coast Mountain Hightop - Comming Soon
1985 2wd Vanagon Pre-runner in the making
soon to be powered by 2.5L Subaru
Custom Lift |
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mmmdiesel Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2005 Posts: 148 Location: Fort Langley, BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:41 am Post subject: |
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canasync wrote: |
I was trying to keep my friend anonymous but since he made his post while I was writing mine I wonder if he'll allow me to post the video.
Maybe I should I wait till the wound has healed |
That would be appreciated. _________________ 1998 T4 Caravelle 2.5 Tdi
2000 Eurovan Multivan 2.8 VR6
1960's Heilite Single Wheel |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12007 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:05 am Post subject: |
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canasync wrote: |
I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half. |
With a few snatch blocks it is possible to pull yourself backwards with winch on the front bumper. |
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canasync Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2010 Posts: 656 Location: BC
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:16 am Post subject: |
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syncrodoka wrote: |
canasync wrote: |
I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half. |
With a few snatch blocks it is possible to pull yourself backwards with winch on the front bumper. |
Only with enough line and trees in the right places _________________ 1987 Syncro
3 knobs
PumpeDüse TDI (17mm Garret Turbo, bigger injectors, stage 4 malone tune, intercooled)
Cruise Control
Remote Start/locks
Custom Lift
Custom Bumpers with receivers
Coast Mountain Hightop - Comming Soon
1985 2wd Vanagon Pre-runner in the making
soon to be powered by 2.5L Subaru
Custom Lift |
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Love My Westy Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:55 am Post subject: |
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canasync wrote: |
syncrodoka wrote: |
canasync wrote: |
I think that since I don't have money for two winches at this time I will be going for the 2" receiver route. I made this decision tonight for the simple reason that if a buddy of mine and I would have had the possibility to winch backwards about 7 hours ago we would not have been stuck for over an hour and a half. |
With a few snatch blocks it is possible to pull yourself backwards with winch on the front bumper. |
Only with enough line and trees in the right places |
Trees are not always available. This is what I carry to Baja with me in my 4WD:
http://www.pullpal.com/
It saved my bacon one time when I tried to cross a dried up lagoon that had tracks going across it. "They must have been made by a much lighter vehicle than mine" I said as I sank into the mud, 10 miles down an aroyo with no one else around. 20 minutes and I was out of that mess. |
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Alaric.H Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Zeitgeist 13 Samba Member
Joined: March 05, 2009 Posts: 12115 Location: Port Manteau
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: |
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tencentlife wrote: |
Can't put the spare Yoko in the clamshell, too big, and I had a cheapo winch laying around, so:
hung the winch on some 4" C-section between the frame rails
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Dayamn bud, that's a sweet install! _________________ Casey--
'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik? |
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IrideWheelies Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2009 Posts: 386 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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or this switch converts turn signal stalk switch to winch controller, at the same time activates idle speed boost and
a big warning light when it is in winch mode. Small rocker with blue LED is rad fan low speed activation for offroading, also boosts idle speed. |
Awesome post. I'm very inspired. Now I can't stop looking at winches online. The turn signal stock controller is brilliant!
Can you tell us how you boost the idle speed? I'd like to do that with a switch on my dash too.
Thanks![/quote] _________________ 89' Dove Blue Syncro Hightop |
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GrindGarage Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2008 Posts: 710 Location: Ocean City, NJ
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hidden winch is awesome.
Reciver mount is good move.
Keep the winch in truck until needed. I.got stuck with a buddy in a bronco had winch on front bumper Reciver and hit something in a big puddle that got us stuck plus ruined the winch. Nothing like loosing plan B in the middle of nowhere. _________________ -cliff
91 Vanagon AUTO
97 Single Port EJ22 all smallcar.com |
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