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grandpa pete
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Westfabulous
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| VWDog wrote: |
| Good technique, but I am going to sound like a pr!ck here... in future you may want to match up the grain (ie turn it 90 degrees) so that it matches the cabinets next to it. |
The advice is sound, but given the limitations of what he had to work with, it worked out alright. Interestingly enough, what GP did is not completely inconsistent with what Westfalia did with the top drawer. Here is a picture of my cabinets, and they are original. The top drawer is horizontal, so Gramps really only took it one step further than Westfalia did.
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grandpa pete
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Desertbusman
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Laminate Repair...tutorial w photos |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
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| What page is this on in the Bentley manual? |
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| i used the same glue and it holds like a bastard. it's the best stuff i have used for sure |
When I did my cabinets and laminate replacement I didn't use that stuff. Usually it works great but not always. I've had to redo too many things using it. Maybe heat and low humidity makes the difference. My preference of choice on laminates was Titebond Carpenter Glue.
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Westfabulous
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Weastfabulous I'll give you $60 bucks for that old cabinet...heck I'll even throw in my old one...  ....thanks for playing... |
Haha. Save your money Gramps. Once you get all black handles on those cupboards and drawers, your cabinet will be just as good as mine......and you'll still have $30 left in your pocket. 
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josh
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:19 am Post subject: Re: Laminate Repair...tutorial w photos |
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| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| bignick wrote: |
| What page is this on in the Bentley manual? |
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| i used the same glue and it holds like a bastard. it's the best stuff i have used for sure |
When I did my cabinets and laminate replacement I didn't use that stuff. Usually it works great but not always. I've had to redo too many things using it. Maybe heat and low humidity makes the difference. My preference of choice on laminates was Titebond Carpenter Glue. |
I've also had some bad luck with Weldwood contact cement. Formica used to sell their own brand of contact cement that seemed superior to anything else I've tried but a quick Google search doesn't turn up any sources for the stuff. 
On another note, my favorite method of removing old laminate is to use an old iron on high heat; just something to try.
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grandpa pete
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can anybody tell me what year cabinet the one i bought is. I removed it and the front seats and the front seat swivel out of a 74 but can't find another 74 with the same setup  p.s. the swivel passenger seat is the best thing i have done for the bus.It opens out the back useable space
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Westfabulous
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| can anybody tell me what year cabinet the one i bought is. I removed it and the front seats and the front seat swivel out of a 74 but can't find another 74 with the same setup p.s. the swivel passenger seat is the best thing i have done for the bus.It opens out the back useable space |
'76 to '79 Westfalia P22. The P27 had the lift top and stove like mine.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Laminate Repair...tutorial w photos |
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| Desertbusman wrote: |
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| bignick wrote: |
| What page is this on in the Bentley manual? |
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| i used the same glue and it holds like a bastard. it's the best stuff i have used for sure |
When I did my cabinets and laminate replacement I didn't use that stuff. Usually it works great but not always. I've had to redo too many things using it. Maybe heat and low humidity makes the difference. My preference of choice on laminates was Titebond Carpenter Glue. |
I've also had some bad luck with Weldwood contact cement. Formica used to sell their own brand of contact cement that seemed superior to anything else I've tried but a quick Google search doesn't turn up any sources for the stuff.
On another note, my favorite method of removing old laminate is to use an old iron on high heat; just something to try. |
really? mine has been fine for over 4 years. i had to do the back of my cabinet by the hatch. connecticut's 'hot' sun has yet to faze it. maybe i just got lucky  i use that stuff for everything. it is great for the vapor barriers on the doors too
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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VWDog
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| VWDOG yhankyou for tour asstoot observation |
Easy there grampa pete. If you notice I did say "good technique". I wasn't out to piss you off or call you down. Hell, most people just live with crappy cabinetry, but you actually took it up yourself to do something about it. So Kudos. My comment was merely an observation.
I didn't know this laminate was so hard to find, but since this is the case I probably would have tried to conserve the material by just patching. Yes, maybe yours looks better in some ways than a patch, but if one were to have enough skill and have the right tools, a patch can be used to match very well. We should all be so lucky to possess all those skills. Cheers. |
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notchboy
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| VWDOG yhankyou for tour asstoot observation |
Easy there grampa pete. If you notice I did say "good technique". I wasn't out to piss you off or call you down. Hell, most people just live with crappy cabinetry, but you actually took it up yourself to do something about it. So Kudos. My comment was merely an observation.
I didn't know this laminate was so hard to find, but since this is the case I probably would have tried to conserve the material by just patching. Yes, maybe yours looks better in some ways than a patch, but if one were to have enough skill and have the right tools, a patch can be used to match very well. We should all be so lucky to possess all those skills. Cheers. |
The OG laminate is unubtainium new. I had a 77 I sent to my friend in the Czech Rep.-I had to re-do the two main doors as well as some small stips on his cooker cabinet. If I hadnt been totaly striping my cabineets for a total redo then Id of been hard pressed to source large sections of the OG stuff.
To fully do most cabinets with OG stuff, you need to find another set of OG cabs just to pull the laminate off to use on yours. Then the fun begins to hope you have enough especialy when you want the grain to run correct.
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grandpa pete
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VWDog
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At the risk of raising the ire of grandpa pete, I thought I should post up what one does when there is no way of replacing an entire piece of laminate and instead one has to work to graft on a new piece(to match the grain).
I did this repair to the hanging, or headbanger, cabinet in the rear of a 79 Westy. Someone had cut a huge speaker hole
Here is the laminate cut away from the good material on the cabinet face. At first I broke it at the weak points of the hole then I cut along a straight edge where there was solid good laminate
The exposed hole:
Using a jig saw I cut the hole square with a "standing" bevel. A standing bevel is one that you can see the face of.
The repair piece has a corresponding "under" bevel
Glue it in
Plane or sand it off
Glue down both pieces. I kept everything aligned using masking tape.
You don't have a laminate router? Use a Japanese hand saw using the wood as a guide from below
Then a file for the corners
I used a touch of Polyshades Bombay Mahogany stain to help hide the joint
With all the black vinyl trim in place, one can hardly see the repair joint line
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notchboy
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I noticed the other day on the front of my rear seat in the 74 - that Westfalia did it like you did with two pieces.
Nice work.
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grandpa pete
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Happened upon this three years after the initial posting ;
Update ; Decided bus was too slow and traded for NICE 63 bug .
The " New Owner " has torn the entire insides of the bus out to "make his own "
I'm really enjoying buzzing around in my new bug
I'm making a custom VW Type6 mini camper that's a lot faster on the highway .
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Aynthm
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| VWDOG yhankyou for tour asstoot observation |
Easy there grampa pete. If you notice I did say "good technique". I wasn't out to piss you off or call you down. Hell, most people just live with crappy cabinetry, but you actually took it up yourself to do something about it. So Kudos. My comment was merely an observation.
I didn't know this laminate was so hard to find, but since this is the case I probably would have tried to conserve the material by just patching. Yes, maybe yours looks better in some ways than a patch, but if one were to have enough skill and have the right tools, a patch can be used to match very well. We should all be so lucky to possess all those skills. Cheers. |
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