Author |
Message |
randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: 14" Tire Options |
|
|
I see a lot about 15" and 16" wheels and tires on here, but nothing much about 14" tires -- even after a search... _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jerrydog411 Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2009 Posts: 388 Location: North Vancouver, BC
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
winter / all-weather or a 'fair / wet' (no snow, ice or off road) weather set? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
randywebb Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2005 Posts: 3815 Location: Greater Metropolitan Nimrod, Orygun
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm personally interested in summer tires, not much wet pavement use even. _________________ 1986 2.1L Westy 2wd Auto Trans. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
maco70 Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2011 Posts: 456 Location: Montréal, Québec
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
We had a threads about this topic, 14" tires, a month ago.
My own conclusion : if i was living in the USA, my choice would be the Hankook 195 70 R 14, available at BusDepot and others places.
But i'm living in Québec and the shipping cost are very high and this Hankook model is not available here. Then, i bought my second choice : Continental Vanco2 185 70 R14. This model may have another name in USA, i'm not sure. _________________ Martin from Montréal
1986 Vanagon GL full camper westfalia
(brown/tan interior) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
seanjenn Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2009 Posts: 722 Location: TAOS
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:11 pm Post subject: |
|
|
This summer I'm going for the 225/70/14 either Firestone Destination A/T or the Cooper Discover M+S. Probably the Coopers.
Currently I have the RA08s 195R14(195/82/14) which have been great so far.
Long, even wearing tread, decent in wet, piss poor on muddy roads but manageable, pretty worthless in the snow.
I just need something that can handle varied terrain better, otherwise, the RA08 is a great tire. _________________ 1987 GL Sunroof
2.1 4 spd |
|
Back to top |
|
|
r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
randywebb wrote: |
I'm personally interested in summer tires, not much wet pavement use even. |
Think Hankook RA08.
185/R14 or 195/R14.
I have 195/R14 on my 1990 Multivan with a Subaru engine and they work fine in sunny San Diego. _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tomkat73 Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2011 Posts: 124 Location: White Salmon, WA
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: 14" Tire Options |
|
|
randywebb wrote: |
I see a lot about 15" and 16" wheels and tires on here, but nothing much about 14" tires -- even after a search... |
Try this link:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=481798&highlight=stock+tires+choices
Hankook RA08's in either 185 or 195R14 size - available from multiple vendors, including Van Cafe, Discount/America's Tire, Tire Rack, Tires-Easy, 1010, etc.
Load rating is 102 for 185R14C, 106 for 195R14C.
Personally - I wouldn't put any P (Passenger) tire on a Vanagon (PO's have BTDT)...and certainly not on a Westy...let alone a Syncro Westy. Load Rating 98 or higher.
Hankook RA08 is somewhat of a hybrid between a Summer tire and All Season. IMHO - perfect for the great PNW. Good, quiet road tire - fine in dry and wet conditions...OK in the snow (I have a Syncro Westy and carry cable chains)
For knarlier tires (mud and off road and some snow) - BFG All Terrain T/A KO's come in 195 75 14D size...but you gotta ask for 'em.
Some have recommended General Grabber AT2's - but load rating too low for my Syncro Westy.
Dedicated Winter Tires - Nokian Hakkapeliitta CS (understand these are NLA in USA), Nokian Hakka C or WR C. CS's were the best tire I ever had on my 87 Syncro Westy.
Vredestein Comtracs?
Yokohama Y356 (Summer)
Kumho 857 (Summer)
Nexen SV820 (Summer)
Continental Vanco 2 (Summer) _________________ Tom
90 Bordeaux (Wine Wagon) Syncro Westy
87 Flash Silver (Silver Slug) Syncro Westy (1996-2011)
86 Bronze Beige Metallic Westy (Tourist Delivery - 1996) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
jerrydog411 Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2009 Posts: 388 Location: North Vancouver, BC
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Bus Depot, Tire Easy.com, even Sears have the Hankook RA08 ... van Cafe does not sell them
Van-Cafe has the (only my opinion as I have had both) superior riding / handling Nokian HakkaC .... http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_1086_1404/nokian_tire_185r14c_hakka_c.html
Either will be vastly superior to any under rated LT or P tire.
Happy Hunting
John
1982 1.9TD Westy
1987 Westy Syncro |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ragnarhairybreeks Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2009 Posts: 1890 Location: Sidney B.C. Canada
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've used these for a few years, first on my '82 westy, then on my '86 syncro as a summer tire. Good stiff tire, good on dry roads and in the rain. Poor on mud and snow.
alistair _________________ '86 7 passenger syncro, converted to westy pop top, project still in progress
'82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94, now gone...
https://shufti.blog/
Old address still works...
http://shufti.wordpress.com |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Racerrojo Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2006 Posts: 827 Location: ALBUQUERQUE 87120
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I just installed this Hankook, I like them so far, and is hard to beat the price.
They are taller and wider than the stock, which helps when you are running a EJ 2.5
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/searchTiresBySize...amp;cs=225
_________________ Tight is tight... too tight is expensive!!!!
Too many vans and mostly all projects |
|
Back to top |
|
|
crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9936 Location: Orbiting San Diego
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:12 pm Post subject: |
|
|
How about a photo just to the right a little, showing the full PLIES data?
thanks,
Mark
Racerrojo wrote: |
I just installed this Hankook, I like them so far, and is hard to beat the price....................................
|
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
tomkat73 Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2011 Posts: 124 Location: White Salmon, WA
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ragnarhairybreeks wrote: |
I've used these for a few years, first on my '82 westy, then on my '86 syncro as a summer tire. Good stiff tire, good on dry roads and in the rain. Poor on mud and snow.
alistair |
Alas Alistair - Michelin Agilis' have been discontinued for some time. I have a set of on 14" steelies 'for emergencies only' - waiting for $$$ and Nokian Hakkapeliitta CS's to come back.... _________________ Tom
90 Bordeaux (Wine Wagon) Syncro Westy
87 Flash Silver (Silver Slug) Syncro Westy (1996-2011)
86 Bronze Beige Metallic Westy (Tourist Delivery - 1996) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
tomkat73 Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2011 Posts: 124 Location: White Salmon, WA
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
|
|
98 Load Rating...so meets Roadhaus "minimum". All Season tread - and price looks good. 80K mileage?! A Traction, B Temp.
Not sure if a 225/70/14 will fit an OEM 14" Alloy (it should if it fits an OEM Steel wheel?) - inside clearance/rubbing problems?
Extra 30mm width (vs my Hankook RA08 195) might 'float' on the snow and hydroplane in the rain more than I'd like....and wider/taller/heavier will likely put a strain and speedo error on a 2.1 WBX.
That said - may not have to air down much in the sand...
Racerrojo - keep us posted on your experience(s) with this tire. Probably not 'beefy' enough for my fully loaded Syncro Westy - but should be good for a tin top, Carat, Weekender or Wolfsburg, especially with your EJ 2.5. _________________ Tom
90 Bordeaux (Wine Wagon) Syncro Westy
87 Flash Silver (Silver Slug) Syncro Westy (1996-2011)
86 Bronze Beige Metallic Westy (Tourist Delivery - 1996) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ragnarhairybreeks Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2009 Posts: 1890 Location: Sidney B.C. Canada
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
tomkat73 wrote: |
ragnarhairybreeks wrote: |
I've used these for a few years, first on my '82 westy, then on my '86 syncro as a summer tire. Good stiff tire, good on dry roads and in the rain. Poor on mud and snow.
alistair |
Alas Alistair - Michelin Agilis' have been discontinued for some time. I have a set of on 14" steelies 'for emergencies only' - waiting for $$$ and Nokian Hakkapeliitta CS's to come back.... |
ah, ok. I really like the construction of the 81s, very strong tire. If only Bib had made the tread better for mud and snow then it would have been a strong competitor to the old hakkas.
alistair _________________ '86 7 passenger syncro, converted to westy pop top, project still in progress
'82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94, now gone...
https://shufti.blog/
Old address still works...
http://shufti.wordpress.com |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pigryder Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2012 Posts: 162 Location: south central PA
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Anyone running the BFG AT in the 195/75/14?? _________________ 1982 Westfalia L Diesel "Stink"
1982 Vanagon GL Diesel "Charlie"
1983 Rabbit GTI a 20 year love affair
1988 Cabriolet diesel |
|
Back to top |
|
|
chimivee Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2009 Posts: 741 Location: Orange, CA
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
tomkat73 wrote: |
98 Load Rating...so meets Roadhaus "minimum". |
Keep in mind, that those appear to be a standard sidewall passenger tire, if that matters to you.
tomkat73 wrote: |
Not sure if a 225/70/14 will fit an OEM 14" Alloy |
Yes, it fits. I am running this size on stock alloys. _________________ -James
86 Syncro Westy, etc |
|
Back to top |
|
|
msewalson Samba Member
Joined: September 14, 2009 Posts: 544 Location: Grand Junction, Colorado
|
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm running BFG's 195/75/14. I have no complaints, no problems in the snow, mud and rain. Some have commented about the noise but I haven't really noticed it.
Matt _________________ 87 Syncro w/EJ22 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pigryder Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2012 Posts: 162 Location: south central PA
|
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
msewalson wrote: |
I'm running BFG's 195/75/14. I have no complaints, no problems in the snow, mud and rain. Some have commented about the noise but I haven't really noticed it.
Matt |
cool thanks matt _________________ 1982 Westfalia L Diesel "Stink"
1982 Vanagon GL Diesel "Charlie"
1983 Rabbit GTI a 20 year love affair
1988 Cabriolet diesel |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dawna82 Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2012 Posts: 31 Location: Long Beach, Ca
|
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:10 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Changing the tires is a good thing for safety right? I am trying to justify my purchases ...
And i'm thrifty, but dont want to be too cheap when it comes to important stuff.
With that said, i live in Long Beach, CA.. . typical beach weather, obviously never any snow, dont really plan on driving anywhere in the snow, no mud, might come across some in the future, some rain, probably rain on the road later on when i can venture out more (when Vanny is more ready..).
SO. I have these tires and i want to get new ones. I dont want to have to change anything else BECAUSE of a tire change. So that means I should be getting 14", correct?
I HAVE been reading, and doing a little bit of research, but i just really want a straightforward answer with what is best. And also, what is the price range i would expect for a full set? I cant go with THE BEST right now...
And on another note, what would be the typical price range i could expect to pay if i had someone else change all my fuel lines in the engine section, opposed to doing it myself? Anyone had any quotes on that? I just got quoted $285 at one place.
Thank you thank you thank you
dawna
82 westy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Bruce Wayne Samba Member
Joined: May 15, 2007 Posts: 1210
|
Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I have the Coopers. got them at Les Schwab here in Oregon.
Last edited by Bruce Wayne on Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:32 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|