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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:48 pm    Post subject: Need help identifying carb setup Reply with quote

Just recently bought this square back and has a built motor with webber carbs and gene berg manifolds. I need to have the carbs rebuilt but can't find any markings on the carbs as to which model they are. The guy that looked at them thinks they are 40 dcnf's but want to make sure that's the case before ordering a rebuild kit. Also anyone know what size filters these take. The P/O ruined the filters so I need new ones.

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Thanks for any and all help
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look like 40 DCNF's to me, from what I have read I think Berg liked to use those carbs in his old setups.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the nuts on the mixture screws I could assume Berg specials, dcnf modified by berg
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With the nuts on the mixture screws I could assume Berg specials, dcnf modified by berg

^^^ I agree ^^^ You could see if Berg's have rebuild kits and the retangular air filters but they are anal about seeing the original receipt of purchase otherwise they might not help you. Rolling Eyes Pierce Manifolds is another good source of DCNF parts and there's always Art @ Air Cooled Engineering if you don't want to tackle the rebuild yourself.
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Swapped the Compufire for a Bosch blue and some points I had sitting around, started 1st crank. Took her out for a drive, pulls harder, more RPM, and runs smoother. I think I'll be sticking with points from now on.

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JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is 42 dcnf set from Berg. I don't think he did any 40s.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow thanks a lot guys for the quick responses. I did find Pierce manifolds when I was googling rebuild kits for the dcnf carbs. From what I briefly read they have the most complete rebuild kits but are a little more expensive. It looks like the 40,42 and 44 rebuild kits are all the same according to pierce manifolds website. Anyone know off the top of their head if this is true?

I will give Berg a call or email and see if I can get any help from them or not. It's always worth a shot. I will have someone rebuild and retune the carbs as I still am not comfortable with carbs yet and this is my daily.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the part numbers are ground off it's likely a berg dcnf kit, yeah, he did that!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the kits are all the same. I have rebuilt lots of the dcnf carbs I like them and they work great. I know you have 42 berg dcnf's if the numbers are ground off the flat side of the float bowls.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And NO silicone RTV.....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And NO silicone RTV.....

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Swapped the Compufire for a Bosch blue and some points I had sitting around, started 1st crank. Took her out for a drive, pulls harder, more RPM, and runs smoother. I think I'll be sticking with points from now on.

RockCrusher wrote:
JB weld the case halves....that'll keep the fretting to a minimum. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that will all be coming off, that was all done by p/o along with running with no filters :rolleyes: .

I am going to try and order rebuild kit for both carbs from gene berg

http://www.geneberg.com/product_info.php?cPath=2870&products_id=966
and
http://www.geneberg.com/product_info.php?cPath=2870&products_id=968

also going to try and pick up new air cleaners with top and bottom plates
http://www.geneberg.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_592&products_id=868

although it seems pretty expensive I feel like its the right thing to do. I guess I could scrape all the blue goo off but still missing parts for the filters such as bolts and gaskets.

The other option would to get the rebuild kit from Pierce Manifolds
http://www.piercemanifolds.com/product_p/92.1153.05.htm

but I am not sure if it has all the parts from both kits that are posted on Gene Berg. Pierce also offers just a filter replacement for 8.95 or can get a full top and bottom plate along with filter for 30.00, but does not look like it has the holes for the 4 top bolts to hold the filters on.

http://www.piercemanifolds.com/product_p/99217.334g.htm

any recommendations guys?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PocketRocket wrote:
Yes the kits are all the same. I have rebuilt lots of the dcnf carbs I like them and they work great. I know you have 42 berg dcnf's if the numbers are ground off the flat side of the float bowls.


must have missed this, but does the kit from Pierce include this kit that Gene Berg offers as an addition to the main rebuild kit?

http://www.geneberg.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_2804_2870&products_id=965
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