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VanWilder Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2009 Posts: 1349 Location: PDX-Weird Town, USA
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:14 am Post subject: |
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VanWilder wrote: |
b00t wrote: |
No way...pretty cool! Does it keep it warm? |
It raises the temp about 10-15 degrees. I use it all winter long. |
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VanWilder has given back to me more then I could ever put into it September 22, 2010
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joseph928 Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2011 Posts: 2114 Location: flagstaff az.
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:40 am Post subject: heater |
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I love my mr. buddy heater, heats up fast. But does make condensation, and there is the o2 issue. I've found to get around some of this when it is not to cold I just turn the heater on pilot light, yes it can keep you warm , but then again we live in Arizona! _________________ 1987 syncro westy tin top sun roof , GW2.3, rear locker, decoupler, Gary Lee tire rack & winch mount, lift, south african grill, big brakes , rhein alloy ,15 BFG AT, Fiamma 10 foot awning ,140 watt rear 85 watt front solar , mppt, truckfridge, automatic fire extinguishing system, tencent oil cooler, And a RMW SS exhaust! - 1971 bug convertible 1776 engine- 2010 Subaru turbo - 1993 Toyota 4x4 truck - 1999 Harley 95 CI, big bore, Andrews cams . Also 80-84- vans. Stock 65 sunroof bug. |
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gl98115 Samba Member
Joined: April 22, 2011 Posts: 263 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Jon_slider wrote: |
So one propane bottle and 3 people sleeping overnight, can consume the entire volume of air in a vanagon.
Turning off the heater when sleeping is a no brainer. It means 3 people sleeping overnight will only use 24% of the air in a Vanagon.
To put it differently, it would take 20 sleeping people, to equal the amount of air a 1gal propane tank uses per hour.
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Unfortunately, the problem with the unvented propane heater is worse. When the concentration of oxygen starts dropping, their isn't enough oxygen in the air to burn the propane completely, and you start getting incomplete combustion with the byproduct carbon monoxide.
2 C3H8 + 7 O2 ------> 2 C + 2 CO + 8 H2O + 2 CO2
The 2 C is the carbon soot that you see. The 2 CO is the carbon monoxide that you don't see, but can kill.
The acute effects produced by carbon monoxide in relation to ambient concentration in parts per million are listed below:
Concentration Symptoms
35 ppm (0.0035%) Headache and dizziness within six to eight hours of constant exposure
100 ppm (0.01%) Slight headache in two to three hours
200 ppm (0.02%) Slight headache within two to three hours; loss of judgment
400 ppm (0.04%) Frontal headache within one to two hours
800 ppm (0.08%) Dizziness, nausea, and convulsions within 45 min; insensible within 2 hours
1,600 ppm (0.16%) Headache, tachycardia, dizziness, and nausea within 20 min; death in less than 2 hours
3,200 ppm (0.32%) Headache, dizziness and nausea in five to ten minutes. Death within 30 minutes.
6,400 ppm (0.64%) Headache and dizziness in one to two minutes. Convulsions, respiratory arrest, and death in less than 20 minutes.
12,800 ppm (1.28%) Unconsciousness after 2-3 breaths. Death in less than three minutes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide_poisoning _________________ '87 faux-Syncro Westy w/ 2.3l GoWesty WBX |
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10239 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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My Big Buddy came with info detailing the needed size of the vent opening (car window cracked, house window cracked, etc) and I think it is 18 square inches or so. So, one window cracked an inch would do it (window appx 2 feet long). That is what I did in the Cruiser the other day. _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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Kejidog Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2011 Posts: 92 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: |
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VanWilder wrote: |
Propane? We don't need no stinking propane!
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Calculations for this are as follows:
Ingenuity + Mini Keg + Wood = HEAT
Just one's body heat in cold temps alone will make plenty of condensation. No way around it. Towels on the dash and wipe the windows regularly.
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that is so cool! well hot i guess. Looks like the wood stove at my parents cottage years ago! _________________ 85 Westy Camper "Jeebus"
"new" rebuilt 2.1 with a ten cent stainless exhaust- lovin all the power!!!! |
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jstar89crx Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 156 Location: Bellingham WA
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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I have been installing Webasto Air Top heaters in vans. They are available in gasoline or diesel models. Can't beat 7000BTU's of bone dry forced air heat. I have put several in TDI powered vans and just put a gas one in a buddy's Eurovan Weekender. Pretty awesome camping in the rain and bringing the wet dog and gear into the van for the night to dry it out. Spendy but worth every penny in my opinion. _________________ 86 Syncro, weekender carat interior, the rest is bone stock for now
SOLD:91 Westy, BEW TDI with VNT17 Turbo, water cooled intercooler, Malone Tune, taller 3rd and 4th. |
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