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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: 67 shifting problem Reply with quote

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Shifting was rough. Popped out of reverse, and kind of flopped into reverse with no pushing down. We have a stock shifter and a new bushing on the shift rod as we removed it a few weeks ago. We then decided to remove the entire transaxle and replace it with a new, rebuilt unit. I just finished that up and have the motor back in and wheels off the ground. We started the engine and ran through the gears and the feel is almost the same as it was before. Will the feel change when wheels are on ground and the rear coupler is cinched up (just the screw was out with pin in) ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar problem. My issue cam from the coupler. My coupler twisted at the press seam. My coupler was made from two pieces of metal, the front that connected to the shift rod that has the bushings and the rear that connected to the transmission with the set screw. Well the the two sections were pressed together and I guess over the years the connection loosened which caused my gears to not line up. It was an easy fix once I figured out the problem. I welded the two together using a friends coupler to get the linement correct.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is the odd part. This is rear coupler number 2. Could the shifter be the problem ? The process of elimination is now slim
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The coupler that I had issues with was this one http://www.jbugs.com/product/311798211.html
The box side and the round side are pressed together and when I tried to go into gear the coupler would twist at the connection point. Once I welded it solid I had no problems. I thought it was my shifter and I keep trying to adjust the shifter. Took me about a month to find the coupler problem. Found it by accident because I was installing new bushings in the coupler and noticed the slight play between the two parts of the coupler.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I have a sneaky feeling it's coupler too. Does anyone have any solid rear shift couplers that are German or better ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't find any, that's why I welded mine Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What stinks is I dropped a nice chunk of change thinking transaxle. The old transaxle was in poor shape, and I learned much replacing it and the axles, but feeling no change is a bummer
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

May be my shifter too, but that is such a simple mechanism
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reverse lock out is only part of the shifter plate.
To me it sounds like an issue with a broken or improperly installed shifter and plate.

And no the "feel" is the same with the wheels on or off the ground, engine off and no load.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have another stock shifter, but not sure of the year. It's a straight rod, where the current one is a thinner slightly curved one. Will a stock 71-74 shifter fit a 67 ? Also, you mentioned incorrectly installed shifter and plate....can you explain more ? There is a wrong way ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here ya go..

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=203971&highlight=shifter+plate

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=494939&highlight=shift+plate

Yes you could use the newer shifter, but its hard to reach for some of us. The shifter position was moved back in years after 1967. Also the shifter will spin as it has no locating pin.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
Here ya go..

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=203971&highlight=shifter+plate

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=494939&highlight=shift+plate

Yes you could use the newer shifter, but its hard to reach for some of us. The shifter position was moved back in years after 1967. Also the shifter will spin as it has no locating pin.

VOLKSWAGNUT nailed it. 71 shifter worked. I replaced the entire transaxle only find out the damn shifter was installed incorrectly. Though I feel somewhat angry, I learned a tremendous amount of know-how. For those thinking your swing-axle is toast, look first at the obvious. Rear shift coupler; front shift bushing; shifter.
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