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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject: 67 shifting problem |
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History....
Shifting was rough. Popped out of reverse, and kind of flopped into reverse with no pushing down. We have a stock shifter and a new bushing on the shift rod as we removed it a few weeks ago. We then decided to remove the entire transaxle and replace it with a new, rebuilt unit. I just finished that up and have the motor back in and wheels off the ground. We started the engine and ran through the gears and the feel is almost the same as it was before. Will the feel change when wheels are on ground and the rear coupler is cinched up (just the screw was out with pin in) ? |
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Cousin of a Porsche Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2007 Posts: 813 Location: Royal Palm Beach
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I had a similar problem. My issue cam from the coupler. My coupler twisted at the press seam. My coupler was made from two pieces of metal, the front that connected to the shift rod that has the bushings and the rear that connected to the transmission with the set screw. Well the the two sections were pressed together and I guess over the years the connection loosened which caused my gears to not line up. It was an easy fix once I figured out the problem. I welded the two together using a friends coupler to get the linement correct. _________________ 67 Bug w/2110
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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That is the odd part. This is rear coupler number 2. Could the shifter be the problem ? The process of elimination is now slim |
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Cousin of a Porsche Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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The coupler that I had issues with was this one http://www.jbugs.com/product/311798211.html
The box side and the round side are pressed together and when I tried to go into gear the coupler would twist at the connection point. Once I welded it solid I had no problems. I thought it was my shifter and I keep trying to adjust the shifter. Took me about a month to find the coupler problem. Found it by accident because I was installing new bushings in the coupler and noticed the slight play between the two parts of the coupler. _________________ 67 Bug w/2110
1980 911sc looks faster than it is!
I can't help it I am what I am.
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks. I have a sneaky feeling it's coupler too. Does anyone have any solid rear shift couplers that are German or better ? |
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Cousin of a Porsche Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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I couldn't find any, that's why I welded mine
Good luck. _________________ 67 Bug w/2110
1980 911sc looks faster than it is!
I can't help it I am what I am.
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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What stinks is I dropped a nice chunk of change thinking transaxle. The old transaxle was in poor shape, and I learned much replacing it and the axles, but feeling no change is a bummer |
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:06 am Post subject: |
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May be my shifter too, but that is such a simple mechanism |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:49 am Post subject: |
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The reverse lock out is only part of the shifter plate.
To me it sounds like an issue with a broken or improperly installed shifter and plate.
And no the "feel" is the same with the wheels on or off the ground, engine off and no load. _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:36 am Post subject: |
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I have another stock shifter, but not sure of the year. It's a straight rod, where the current one is a thinner slightly curved one. Will a stock 71-74 shifter fit a 67 ? Also, you mentioned incorrectly installed shifter and plate....can you explain more ? There is a wrong way ? |
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Tdog71 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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VOLKSWAGNUT nailed it. 71 shifter worked. I replaced the entire transaxle only find out the damn shifter was installed incorrectly. Though I feel somewhat angry, I learned a tremendous amount of know-how. For those thinking your swing-axle is toast, look first at the obvious. Rear shift coupler; front shift bushing; shifter. |
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