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 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:17 pm Post subject: '67 Beetle: Seat Back Restraint |
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Nope, not the strap that holds the seat in its folded down position. 
According to Wolfsburg West (and ETKA, in fact), part # 111885583 exists on '67 Beetles. Does anyone have pictures of this installed? I can't find any spot in my headliner that the hook would go through (and it's an OG headliner), nor can I find any spot on my rear seat that it would go on.. My January '67 bug doesn't have it, and another person's February '67 bug doesn't seem to have it either.
Anyone seen this installed in a '67? Got pictures? (care to share your VIN or month of manufacture? Maybe it's something they stopped doing at a certain point in production?)
Bill May?
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Good article.
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They show it in the '66 owner's manual...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/66bug/10-11.jpg
...and in this pic from the '67 manual too...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/8_66bug/12.jpg
The pic in the second link (even though the link address say's '66 it is from the '67 pages) shows the metal hook better than the other manuals do, but they should all be the same after '65 I would think. I know that owners manuals may not be the best reference for this sort of thing, but they are a good basic guideline. The hook goes just above the carpet as in the factory pic's. If your car has had the headliner replaced, they may have covered over the holes that it mounts to.
There is a hook for one in my '66, but the seat has been re-covered so I can't tell where the other end fastens to, no scar or any evidence of where it should go.
I wouldn't think they started leaving them off in '67, as it was put there to keep the seat upright under heavy braking. They must not actually be that necessary though, as 98% of them are missing or left off when the rubber rotted.
In '68, they continued the rear seat retainer, but refined the design so there was a latch that held the seat as in this pic from their manual...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/68bug/68T1-10.jpg
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They show it in the '66 owner's manual...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/66bug/10-11.jpg
...and in this pic from the '67 manual too...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/8_66bug/12.jpg
The pic in the second link (even though the link address say's '66 it is from the '67 pages) shows the metal hook better than the other manuals do, but they should all be the same after '65 I would think. I know that owners manuals may not be the best reference for this sort of thing, but they are a good basic guideline. The hook goes just above the carpet as in the factory pic's. If your car has had the headliner replaced, they may have covered over the holes that it mounts to.
There is a hook for one in my '66, but the seat has been re-covered so I can't tell where the other end fastens to, no scar or any evidence of where it should go.
I wouldn't think they started leaving them off in '67, as it was put there to keep the seat upright under heavy braking. They must not actually be that necessary though, as 98% of them are missing or left off when the rubber rotted.
In '68, they continued the rear seat retainer, but refined the design so there was a latch that held the seat as in this pic from their manual...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/68bug/68T1-10.jpg |
Nice eyes. I didn't think to look in the manual. I dug around behind my seat today, now that I know where it goes, and I did in fact find a screw that goes into the body where the hook should be. Now to find one of those hooks... Wolfsburg is sold out.
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Nice eyes. I didn't think to look in the manual. I dug around behind my seat today, now that I know where it goes, and I did in fact find a screw that goes into the body where the hook should be. Now to find one of those hooks... Wolfsburg is sold out. |
West coast metric has the hook. They're out of stock right now too, but they seem like they get stuff back in stock quicker than WW, at least in the cases of different things I've needed.
https://shop.westcoastmetric.com/viewProduct.php?productID=113-584
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Thanks, since this thread started I've acquired a hook.
However, I'm glad someone kicked this thread back open. I've as yet been unable to ascertain exactly where on the backseat that the rubber catch goes. Can anyone take measurements or pictures of theirs if they have the seat out?
Thanks!
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However, I'm glad someone kicked this thread back open. I've as yet been unable to ascertain exactly where on the backseat that the rubber catch goes. Can anyone take measurements or pictures of theirs if they have the seat out?
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I'll see what I can do for you later today. By some stroke of luck, my factory installed rubber thingy is still there (tho crumbling). This is on a 63 but should at least be similar.
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The rubber strap was held to the seat frame by a bracket like this one repopped by WW
It screws into the back rest frame; the hole from the original will still be there. If the seat has been recovered, you can still feel for it. |
Thanks - I have the rubber bit and the metal bracket, but am not sure where to feel for the hole.. Side, or back of the seat? Looks like my back seat has been recovered because I'm not spotting a hole.
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67 FL Deluxe beat me to it. But I did manage to grab a few pics tonight. This is the OG upholstery, underneath a cheap seat cover. I just pulled the seat cover back enough to see.
Here's the hook with my (broken) rubber stopper.
Here's where the rubber piece hooks to the seat. That little metal hardware is screwed in with one flathead screw to the angled bar on the back of the seat. (Again, try to ignore the black vinyl; the silverbeige is the OG upholstery.)
Here's the best closeup I could get at this weird angle without taking the seat out. 
This is on a 63 bug.
You can tell better in 67 FL Deluxe's photo, the hole appears to be just a little above the half-way point on the diagonal of this back bar. Hopefully you can feel it out!
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| BTW, Bill May has been MIA for a while. I hope he's okay... |
He posted to another forum (not TheSamba) as recently as July 20, so I think he's OK.. just hasn't logged onto TheSamba for a while. 
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