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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:45 am    Post subject: Setrab single and dual fan pack Reply with quote

is the dual really needed, and despite the smaller size, does it really "outperform" the traditional Mesas?

anyone has any pics of how the dual pack setrab's mounted?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Setrab single and dual fan pack Reply with quote

pupjoint wrote:
does it really "outperform" the traditional Mesas?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jason,

Do you run the single or dual? What are your temps like? You have eliminated the stock oil cooler with your BB shroud as I recall.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve,
I'm running a small, single Setrab (Series 1, 25 row; 7 5/8" x 6 7/16"). Even without the fan hooked up, oil temps stay around 200 F. It replaced a 96-plate- Mesa that ran about 20-25F hotter (also, no fan). The Setrab is simply a way more efficient design, with much greater surface area for convective heat flux from the cooler to the ambient air.
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Why not just make a custom set of wires with a Y splice in them. Then you could just run one distributor.

I don't think electrickery works that way
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very cool (ha) to hear. I'm thinking of trying a wide aspect ratio but small height/thin Setrab. I have a nice spot to tuck it under my wing where it will have high pressure to duct through.

Motorcycle and utility vehicle (Rhyno) fans from stock oil coolers are cheap on ebay if you need a fan. They go from 5 up to 8".

My squishy 2275 is heating up real quick since I switched to thicker oils.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dual setrab works excellent - I ran a 2563 with no internal oil cooler and temps stayed below 200 in orlando, fl during summer
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crimson, you had a special T4 with Nickies in a hot rod / cruiser type car. With that fancy engine you could have gotten by with no cooler I bet Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep - but driving from baton rouge to orlando did get the temp up a bit sinceh I was driving at a fast clip Smile The thing I like about the setrab is that they are compact - I would say that if you are only running the setrab without an internal oil cooler then buy a spare fan when you order just in case one burns out (mine have been running for quite a few years with no problems but its good to have a spare fan just in case)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where you mount the cooler matters a lot. I've tried a couple of locations and the fan runs a lot less if the cooler is positioned where it gets a lot of natural airflow. The popular over-the-transmission spot is particularly poor in that regard.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is the best place to mount an oil cooler, and what's the reason very few, if any, mount an oil cooler at the front, directly in the airflow? Is it the length of the oil lines?

I have a Mesa (with fan) mounted in my replica speedster's driver's side rear wheel well.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a swing-axle, I put it just aft and a little below the rear torsion tube on the left side. That space really isn't available for the IRS cars.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4821523&highlight=airflow#4821523

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

911pickup wrote:
Where is the best place to mount an oil cooler, and what's the reason very few, if any, mount an oil cooler at the front, directly in the airflow? Is it the length of the oil lines?

I have a Mesa (with fan) mounted in my replica speedster's driver's side rear wheel well.

Ron

I've wondered this too, I imagine way too far to pump oil right??
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been done: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=374211&highlight=front+mounted+oil+cooler
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