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boogerweld
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: Dipstick on top of case? |
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I just nabbed a couple type 4 cases from a friend. I noticed that one of 'em had the dipstick on top of case. The fan shroud that I assume goes with this block doesn't have provisions for dipstick either. Do I have a 914 case?
The jugs and heads are all 2000cc spec. |
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Blainejohnson21
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| That's a Vanagon engine |
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VDubTech
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Blainejohnson21 wrote: |
| That's a Vanagon engine |
Or a 914 engine. 
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boogerweld
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Cool, thanks guys. I got all the stuff so I could slowly rebuild while my current 1800 is still running okay. Looks like this block will be just the ticket......and I won't have to screw with the godda**n dipstick boot!! |
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EZ Gruv
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| boogerweld wrote: |
| ....and I won't have to screw with the godda**n dipstick boot!! |
Yeah, because the 5 minutes it takes to install that sucker is a bitch.
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boogerweld
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Hey! Every second counts. And it is a bitch  |
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rustbus
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| Blainejohnson21 wrote: |
| That's a Vanagon engine |
Or a 914 engine. |
Or a 411 engine
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nathansnathan
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| According to the tuna can site, 411 engines only came as 1.7 or 1.8's so if it's a 2.0 it would have to be a 914 engine. If it is a 2.0 914 engine it would have the 3 intake studs instead of the 4, but the sparkplug angles in the heads will be different than it would be on a bus, meaning the holes in the bus tin for the plugs will be in the wrong place. |
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boogerweld
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Mystery solved. It is a 914 case. Seemed great at first......but the more I think about it the more I think I'll use the 1700 case & jettison the 914. Thanks for help. |
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VDubTech
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| rustbus wrote: |
| VDubTech wrote: |
| Blainejohnson21 wrote: |
| That's a Vanagon engine |
Or a 914 engine. |
Or a 411 engine |
Or not.
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| a measurement of your rod would be extremely useful. |
| notchboy wrote: |
| my dad wasnt a belittling cock when he tought me how to wrench on cars. |
| EverettB wrote: |
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10 photos = douchebaggery |
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raygreenwood
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| nathansnathan wrote: |
| According to the tuna can site, 411 engines only came as 1.7 or 1.8's so if it's a 2.0 it would have to be a 914 engine. If it is a 2.0 914 engine it would have the 3 intake studs instead of the 4, but the sparkplug angles in the heads will be different than it would be on a bus, meaning the holes in the bus tin for the plugs will be in the wrong place. |
Or it could be a 914/411/412 or vanagon engine case that was used to build a two liter out of....swap rods, crank..slap on 2L jug set and have you heads flycut.
The only clear way to find out what is "was" after 35 years is to read us teh case # and head part #'s. Ray |
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raygreenwood
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| boogerweld wrote: |
| Mystery solved. It is a 914 case. Seemed great at first......but the more I think about it the more I think I'll use the 1700 case & jettison the 914. Thanks for help. |
A 1700 case IS a 914 case.....and a 411/412 case...and a bus case. There is not one bit of difference. Same assembly line. The 914 engines CAME OUT OF...the 411/412 program....and then later went into the busses. So actually they rae all just type 4 engines.
The 2.0 914 and bus cases are no different at all. Same exact castings.
Use the case that has the least damage and best main bearing journals. Nothing else makes any difference whatsoever. Ray |
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grandfatherjim
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| boogerweld wrote: |
| Mystery solved. It is a 914 case. Seemed great at first......but the more I think about it the more I think I'll use the 1700 case & jettison the 914. Thanks for help. |
A 1700 case IS a 914 case.....and a 411/412 case...and a bus case. There is not one bit of difference. Same assembly line. The 914 engines CAME OUT OF...the 411/412 program....and then later went into the busses. So actually they rae all just type 4 engines.
The 2.0 914 and bus cases are no different at all. Same exact castings.
Use the case that has the least damage and best main bearing journals. Nothing else makes any difference whatsoever. Ray |
One small caveat though - the early type 4's going into buses had a place to mount a mechanical fuel pump, whereas that area on the 914/411 was blocked off. |
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raygreenwood
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| boogerweld wrote: |
| Mystery solved. It is a 914 case. Seemed great at first......but the more I think about it the more I think I'll use the 1700 case & jettison the 914. Thanks for help. |
A 1700 case IS a 914 case.....and a 411/412 case...and a bus case. There is not one bit of difference. Same assembly line. The 914 engines CAME OUT OF...the 411/412 program....and then later went into the busses. So actually they rae all just type 4 engines.
The 2.0 914 and bus cases are no different at all. Same exact castings.
Use the case that has the least damage and best main bearing journals. Nothing else makes any difference whatsoever. Ray |
One small caveat though - the early type 4's going into buses had a place to mount a mechanical fuel pump, whereas that area on the 914/411 was blocked off. |
So did all of the early cases going into type 4's. In Europe...1968 on were available with twin carbs and had the fuel pump boss drilled and bushed. Also gray market cars coming through Canada through early 1972 had twin carbs on 1700's in 411. They were few here with twin carbs.....but you can still find a few. It could still have been from a 1.7L 411. Ray |
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