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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: What later VW emblem fits a square headlight grille? FOUND! |
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Is there a VW emblem from another (newer) model that fits or can be adapted to fit the square head lamp grill?
The emblem in question is 125mm chromed 251 853 601 and seems to be about $30. I just checked and they are not extinct any more as I thought when I began this, but now an curious if an alternative is available. One might harvest from a wreck, for example for little or no money, so when this part goes extinct again, that the bling can still be shown.
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j_dirge Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 4641 Location: Twain Harte, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: Re: What later VW emblem fits a square head light grill? |
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r39o wrote: |
Is there a VW emblem from another (newer) model that fits or can be adapted to fit the square head lamp grill?
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I thought one of the vendors had SA VW emblems.. and they come in a couple different trims? _________________ -89 GL Westy, SVX.. finally.
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those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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j_dirge Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2007 Posts: 4641 Location: Twain Harte, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:55 am Post subject: |
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VC has some..
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_979_164/front_grill_emblem_big.html _________________ -89 GL Westy, SVX.. finally.
-57 pan f/g buggy with a 67 pancake Type 3 "S"
"Jimi Hendrix owned one. Richard Nixon did not"
-Grand Tour, Season 1, episodes 4 and 5
danfromsyr wrote: |
those are straight line runs with light weight race cars for only 1/4mile at a time..
not pushing a loaded brick up a mountain pass with a family of 4+ inside expecting to have an event free vacation..
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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MK4 jetta/golf for the big emblem grills '88+. They need to be tweaked slightly for mounting though.
They are domed not squared off on the edges like ours so they look more modern. |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: What later VW emblem fits a square head light grill? |
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j_dirge wrote: |
r39o wrote: |
Is there a VW emblem from another (newer) model that fits or can be adapted to fit the square head lamp grill?
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I thought one of the vendors had SA VW emblems.. and they come in a couple different trims? |
Other than black and chrome?
Yes, those are the black and chrome ones.
I can always paint my faded chrome one black.....
syncrodoka wrote: |
MK4 jetta/golf for the big emblem grills '88+. They need to be tweaked slightly for mounting though.
They are domed not squared off on the edges like ours so they look more modern. |
That is the idea.
My wife had our last A4 Jetta today, so I could not look.
I looked at our A5 and it is too big (over 5 inches or more than 125+ mm) and too sloped.
I will look at the A4 one over the weekend.
Did you do this mod already?
If so, got pix or instructions? _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12008 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have wanted to find a modern grill emblem version that will fit on a SA grill but the later grill version is the only option that I have found that was workable.
I have SA grills on all 3 of my vans. VC does have colored SA grill emblems but they are smaller than yours http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_1740_164/south_african_grill_emblems.html |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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1J5853601 and 1J5853601C seem to be the A4 Golf and Jetta front emblems.
Cost is not cheap either at $36 or $52 for them.
It is unclear which is which actually in the catalog..... _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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kamzcab86 Samba Moderator
Joined: July 26, 2008 Posts: 7925 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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r39o wrote: |
1J5853601 and 1J5853601C seem to be the A4 Golf and Jetta front emblems.
It is unclear which is which actually in the catalog..... |
1J5853601 = front grille
1J5853601C = rear hatch/trunk _________________ ~Kamz
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1990 Vanagon Westfalia: Old Blue's Blog
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"Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance." - 孔子 |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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kamzcab86 wrote: |
r39o wrote: |
1J5853601 and 1J5853601C seem to be the A4 Golf and Jetta front emblems.
It is unclear which is which actually in the catalog..... |
1J5853601 = front grille
1J5853601C = rear hatch/trunk |
You are right, I looked again and the C part number is for the rear on the sedan and estate Jettas.
I now see there is a 1J5853601 and a 1J5853601A which are constructed differently.
Both the Vanagon and the A4 Jetta front are listed as 125 mm and the rear of the two look the same.
Now I will have to post pictures......
This is looking promising as the A4 emblem can be had for about $15 shipped.
I may even have some factory campaign replacements I sort of recall, somewhere, maybe.....Free is good, too! Trick is to find them... _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: TOP |
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Vanagon top
A4 Jetta top
_________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject: Bottom |
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vanagon bottom
A4 Jetta bottom
_________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: Back |
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Vanagon back
A4 Jetta back
_________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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I ordered a new Jetta iV emblem after doing some eye ball comparisons.
Should be here before Friday.
I dd this even though my spare grill has an almost perfect emblem on it..... _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 2:53 pm Post subject: DONE! |
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_________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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tclark Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2005 Posts: 926
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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I was bit confused what is the vw part# from the a4 jetta emblem that you used for the vanagon front grille _________________ 89 Westy with TDI AHU 1.9 manual lots of mods
85 GL 1.9, auto (for sold) |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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tclark wrote: |
I was bit confused what is the vw part# from the a4 jetta emblem that you used for the vanagon front grille |
1J5853601 = front grille _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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kuleinc Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2007 Posts: 1604 Location: East Bay Area, California
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shadetreetim Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2011 Posts: 1994 Location: Riverside, California
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ok Walt. You convinced me. I ordered one off fleabay just now. I had painted mine silver a while back. The chrome one should be just the ticket. Cheap too.
Although the last time I spent money on aesthetics, the mechanicals got jealous.
Hello, AAA, is that you? Get the truck ready... D'Oh _________________ Tim Potts
Doing my best every time I drive it to dispel the myth these Vanagons have to be slow!
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insyncro Banned
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 15086 Location: New York
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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FYI, Chris Turner posted this to the Vanagon email list server in 2001.
Many had this emblem in place soon after.
Run a fine tooth saw behind the snap hooks to make some more room for them to hook into the late Vanagon grill.
The eBay cheapie copies will tarnish within months and the chrome looses its look quick.
Dealer quality emblems are much better and yes twice the cost.
Enjoy. |
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r39o Samba Polizei
Joined: May 18, 2005 Posts: 9800 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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kuleinc wrote: |
Did it just pop in, or were modifications necessary? |
syncrodoka wrote: |
They need to be tweaked slightly for mounting though. |
insyncro wrote: |
Run a fine tooth saw behind the snap hooks to make some more room for them to hook into the late Vanagon grill. |
While test fitting mine just popped in. So I left it. This was before the file was mentioned. I did measure with a caliper and it was the same so I left it alone. I may look closer some other time. For now it stays... _________________ "Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!
1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....
Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently) |
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