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thext94 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1003 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:12 am Post subject: Film Photography |
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Does anybody else out there do film photography? I thought it would be cool to start a thread just posting some cool pictures we've taken (VW or not)
I'll start it out with a couple
All these were taken with a disposable Kodak
Scanned this film negative on a flatbed computer scanner
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Santaji Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2007 Posts: 105 Location: Mumbai, India
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Shooting with film is fun. I have two old 35mm rangefinder cameras from the '70s that i use sometimes.
These where taken with my Yashica Electro 35 GTN that i bought on eBay:
Rusty Cadillac by Santaji S, on Flickr
Rusty Cadillac by Santaji S, on Flickr
My other film camera is a Canon Canonet QL17 that i bought in an antiques store in Mumbai, i'm currently shooting my first roll with it and took a lot of VW pics! _________________ '78 Westfalia '63 RHD Beetle '62 Fiat 1100 |
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WrongWayRandall Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2012 Posts: 35 Location: Kentucky, USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the process of building my darkroom in our new house, so I don't have anything new to post, but you can see some of the pics that I have scanned here). I use medium and large format and 35mm stereo cameras primarily. All of the stuff on that site was done on film, either roll or sheet, developed and printed by me in the darkroom.
- Randy |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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I used film for decades, starting with a used SLR and a home darkroom back in the '70s. I will probably have skin problems in my later years due to hand/tray processing films and especially prints for years.
I resisted digital for many years. First problem was resolution, but at 10MP digital is fine for enlargements up to about 11x14. The real problem wasn't resolution, it was color depth (number of shades that can be captured). Banding and poor gradation at the highlight peaks meant digital looked lousy in tough artistic lighting conditions.
But a couple of years ago I relented, and bought a digital SLR. I believe the modern DSLR (price under $1000) can compete with 35mm film in every way, producing results roughly comparable to Ektachrome ASA 160 or so. I'm not sure anything quite hits Kodachrome 25, but who really needs that?
The ability to edit digitally has made all my burn-in and dodging tools and my darkroom frivilous wastes of time. Digital makes it easy and much better. With HDR tools one can even approach an ability previously reserved for Ansel Adams' Zone System.
I'll never go back, though my old darkroom equipment remains in storage, perhaps just for sentimental reasons.
I do miss the craft. And the look of a perfectly exposed large print, with fine, sharp grain visible, is still better than any digital print, at least to my eyes. |
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photogdave Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C.
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a life-long film shooter. I have three Leica rangefinders, a Nikon F100, a Rolleiflex, a Fuji GA645 and a Bronica ETR system.
I also have a Panasonic GH2 DSLR (mostly for video) and a couple of digi point-and-shoots.
I could talk all day about the pros and cons, aesthetics, quality of the gear etc. but I used to sell camera equipment for a living and frankly, I'm burned out on the subject.
Here's some of the film shots I happen to have in my Samba gallery:
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thext94 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1003 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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All very cool pictures! My Holga 135 arrived in the mail today, I'm excited to start messing around with long exposures, double exposures, and light leaks.
Also picked up some film developed off of my friends camera. After shooting the roll, we dropped the canister in boiling water for 5 seconds and then dried it out before developing. It ended up creating some really cool effects that I'll post up here when I get them scanned. |
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dubllyou Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2012 Posts: 1251 Location: Jack & Cee Motors
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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And they said film was gonna die and digital would be king!
I'm very glad to see people having fun shooting film. I've been working retail in the photo biz since before the "revolution" at a store that's lucky to have survived it... a lot didn't.
Digital can be technically better but it will never surpass the look of film. 25 million pixels (or however many you want) arranged in perfectly organized rows, gathering and interpreting light in precisely the same manner will never capture and reproduce an image with the same artistic appeal as a roll of gelatin based silver halide film.
Photography is art and it's all about the medium.
I use digital for a lot of things lately, because there is good quality there now and it is cheaper, but I still run a roll or two through the film cameras occasionally.... I just haven't scanned any lately.
BTW, I work at Dot Dotson's Photo, in Eugene. "Dot" Dotson opened the store in 1932, about the same time color film was starting to be used. The building we're in now was formerly Jack & Cee Motors, which I believe was the first VW dealer in Lane County. They've been there since the late '60s, I've been with them since '96. I've bought, sold and used more film cameras and talked more film photo "shop" than most people.
Enough blab, I'll go dig up (or create) something to post! _________________ Two wrongs don't make a right...
three lefts do.
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mark tucker Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2009 Posts: 23937 Location: SHALIMAR ,FLORIDA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I miss the little "out houses" in the parking lots to drop off our film at, not wally world does it and looses it from time to time.whatb were those called??? does any body remember??I know do you? |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I wholeheartedly agree with all of the above, except one point:
"...it's all about the medium."
I believe it is all about the light!
There are Photoshop filters that can mimic the look of silver-based film and prints, but I haven't tried them out yet. Nik software also makes some very creative and "filmy" products to manipulate the images to be more like traditional prints. But you need really good exposures and lenses to take advantage of them.
Come to think of it, that is identical to the important parts of film-based craft! |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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mark tucker wrote: |
I miss the little "out houses" in the parking lots to drop off our film at, not wally world does it and looses it from time to time.whatb were those called??? does any body remember??I know do you? |
Fotomat
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WrongWayRandall Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2012 Posts: 35 Location: Kentucky, USA
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Awesome! That is just how I remember them |
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yellow73kubel Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2008 Posts: 789 Location: Columbia, SC
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Great stuff! Most people seem to think you're crazy showing up with a film camera. It's been one of my favorite hobbies since I started probably 2 years ago.
I currently have two Canon AE-1's (one regular and one Program model) and an assortment of lenses, all passed down from my father and grandfather. My darkroom equipment was an ebay score: Paterson 35mm tank, changing bag, and some random accessories. I've been buying film and chemicals from Freestyle Photo. Most of it has been color film developed with the Unicolor C-41 kit, though I did one B&W experiment with caffenol that turned out pretty well (will have to find some examples). I scan the negatives on an old flatbed, which is probably the one piece that needs to be replaced.
Didn't do that Split justice, but that's what I love about film. You just never know what will come out of the soup.
DSLR's give excellent results results cheaper (no film or chemicals), but they never capture the spirit of film.
For the critics out there, yeah, my photography is far from professional. I'm only in it for the enjoyment. |
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photogdave Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C.
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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yellow73kubel wrote: |
DSLR's give excellent results results cheaper (no film or chemicals), but they never capture the spirit of film.
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Shoot some slide film (while you can!) and get a projector. Good projection of a well-exposed slide will blow the doors off any DSLR image on a monitor or big screen TV!
Oh, even when I sold DSLRs for a living I always challenged the "it's cheaper" logic. Most analog cameras are dirt cheap or free, film is an archival medium so no need to invest in an expensive and complicated digital backup system, and if time is money you save a lot of time on the editing side with film. I find it much quicker to look through a roll or two of 36 frames, pick out the images I like and scan them, versus going through hundreds of thumbnails of all the digital images that I shot way too many of because it's "free". _________________ 89 Syncro GL Westfalia 2.1 WBX/WBXaustSS
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yellow73kubel Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2008 Posts: 789 Location: Columbia, SC
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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photogdave wrote: |
Shoot some slide film (while you can!) and get a projector. Good projection of a well-exposed slide will blow the doors off any DSLR image on a monitor or big screen TV! |
I don't doubt it. The detail available in a small sheet of film is just amazing.
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It could be argued either way. I definitely agree about the difference between the shooting style with film and digital. Having to pay for each shot really makes you think about whether or not it's worth taking and how much effort you want to put in to making it right.
Don't even get me started on instagram...
Out of curiosity, do any of you shoot video on film these days? I have a pair of antique cameras, one Super 8 and one regular 8mm, and would like to see what can be done with them. I haven't had much luck with finding information on film and developing supplies. |
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thext94 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1003 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:14 am Post subject: |
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yellow73kubel wrote: |
Don't even get me started on instagram...
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Tell me about it...
Took a couple shots at the Redondo Beach marina today and played around with a little bit of long exposure. The thing I love is that by the time I'm done with a roll I've completely forgotten all the other pictures I've taken or places I've been. Getting them developed is really an experience |
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photogdave Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C.
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: |
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Regular 8mm is pretty much dead.
Super8 is still available to buy and process but it's pretty expensive. Plan on spending $50 to shoot 3 minutes of footage.
I used to shoot Kodachrome Super8 until it was discontinued a couple of years ago; it was relatively cheap because processing was included.
I really enjoyed cutting in scanned film footage with my video stuff.
Check out these guys for movie film:
http://www.pro8mm.com/ _________________ 89 Syncro GL Westfalia 2.1 WBX/WBXaustSS
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yellow73kubel Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2008 Posts: 789 Location: Columbia, SC
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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^ Thanks for the link! $35 for film and processing isn't terrible, it might be fun to try it out at some point. Definitely need to make sure the video is worth shooting before investing in it. Perhaps some fun at a VW show, or get together a few of the other guys around here with vintage bicycles.
Here are a few more that I shot about 3 years ago (lied about me getting into photography 2 years ago, time has flown since then). I need to pick up some film cleaner and re-scan a number of other ones.
I really like the colors in this one.
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photogdave Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 3053 Location: Vancouver Island, B.C.
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thext94 Samba Member
Joined: April 11, 2010 Posts: 1003 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:12 am Post subject: |
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That is a great shot! |
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thext94 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Here are some of the results of the boiled film
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