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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: should almost-new meyle shocks be like this? Reply with quote

Sorry for the noobesque question, but I'm getting different info, I'm at a parts counter out of town and I need informed help.

I recently picked up some "almost-new" 2011-marked Meyle shocks on craigslist. I thought it was weird that when I compressed them that they didn't re-extend as good shocks for my other cars do. I figured it was simply a design difference, and people have said this is fine.

Today I'm being told that no, this is NOT fine.

Please weigh in fellas. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on the design. A nitrogen-charged shock will extend on it's own, as the nitrogen pressure pushes the shaft out.

The Bilstein shocks are nitrogen charged, and the Koni are not. I'd bet the Meyle are not nitrogen charged. Is there any sign of oil leakage around the shaft?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above - those shocks are fine.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm almost 100% certain that these are hydraulic shocks. I can hear liquid moving around when I compress them. They look pretty new but the rear ones compress really easily.

Not one of them re-extends on its own
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meyle shocks are not charged.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love when people tell ya you need gas shocks to give a little lift to your VW... when you can compress them by hand they have maybe 25#'s of pressure... how much VW lift is that Rolling Eyes like having a 10yr old lift the back bumper when driving Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't it the springs that determine ride height?

(...but then bad shocks can cause springs to sag?)
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a set of those (non-charged) shocks on my hardtop.
I wanted a less jarring ride similar to the original Boge shocks.
Very nice difference for me after throwing out the Monroes.
Didn't want nor could I afford, Bilstien. I had already used KYB once too.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KYB...aka kill your back Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

danfromsyr wrote:
like having a 10yr old lift the back bumper when driving Laughing


Make sure you have the 10 year old lifting the bumper stand on a skateboard or it could be dangerous Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All shocks for a VW bus are going to be hydraulic shocks, but some will be gas charged and some will not. The gas is supposed to keep the oil from frothing as it gets hot in use and helps push it through the valves on rebound. Early on, at least, gas shocks had a tendency to leak when they got hot and were subject to sudden failure just when you needed the gas the most, they seem to do much better these days though.

I have found that gas shocks on the front of an older VW will noticeably raise the front end of an unloaded vehicle and have had them negatively effect handling.
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