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79SuperVert
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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:39 pm Post subject: Heater Control in Engine Compartment |
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I read somewhere that early Beetles came with the heater control in the engine compartment. Then in the "World War II Off Road Beetle KDF 82E Road Test" thread, I read that
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| ...The cover for the rear slots was under the rear seat and was a field modification from the looks of the sewing and the old canvas that was used. There is a hole in the firewall with a valve like that of an old German oven that was directly in front of the air intake for the engine. With the cover on the outside the air was sucked from the inside of the vehicle and through the heaters and back into the car. The heater control looks like an oil dip stick in the engine compartment and it controlled the heat. There was no means of controlling the heat from the inside of the car. ... Harry |
Given the above I presume it's likely that the early post-war Beetles had that type of heater control too.
Does anyone have a picture of what that control looked like? Just curious.
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nlorntson
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe the Winter summer lever seen here on the right side of the fan housing
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79SuperVert
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The control you picture is for the engine warm up. I believe it works by restricting the amount of cooling air entering the fan housing, enabling quicker engine warm up in cold weather, but ironically leaving less air available to enter the heater boxes and warm the passenger compartment.
I'm referring to the heater control for the passenger compartment, which normally is found on the center tunnel between the seats. Very early beetles apparently had that control in the engine compartment, similar to an oil dipstick per the quote above. Sounds very impractical. I seem to recall reading that it was on the driver side of the engine compartment. I'm curious to see a pic of such a setup, including how it activated both heater boxes at the same time.
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splitjunkie
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here you go. from a '43
Having the heat control in the engine compartment was not that uncommon back then.
I had a '54 Ford F100 that had a valve on the engine to turn the heat on and off.
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79SuperVert
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Well that's the first time I've ever seen it! Thanks.
Was there one on each side or just one control for both sides?
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rod_vw
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:58 am Post subject: |
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I would guess just one for both sides.
The early post-war car has only one heater control cable which directly controls the right side. The left side control sheet is linked to the right by a rod passing across the rear of the engine. That's how my '46 is.
It would seem logical that earlier engines had the knob shown above controlling both sheets via some sort of attachment to that rod instead of the cable to the inside of the vehicle.
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This is the KDF style, found in an ad online for repros. |
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79SuperVert
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OK. Simple enough. Thanks!
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