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bustedtype2 Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2005 Posts: 417 Location: The arm pit of california
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject: OIL Breather box placement ??? Help! |
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I am going to instal an oil breather in my bus. What is the correct placement of the oil breather box. I have heard a bunch of diffrent ideas. What is correct???? or dose it just need to be placed at a high level. Dose it need to be centerd.
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Just mount it high with a hose to each valve over and one to the case. _________________ Glenn
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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What size engine and what RPM? _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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jfats808 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Ive fabbed a bracket to the above left of your battery for customers builds . The alternative is to mount on your shroud. I dont like to do it and that is my last suggestion if no other choice. Main thing is that it needs to be above the engine. Fab a 90degree plate. _________________ 2276 IDA's 86C 11-1 DD !
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bustedtype2 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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I had it mounted on the fan shroud before I did my tare down. I did not like the look. I was thinking of putting it high and to the left of the Eng. Dose it matter if the hoses are different lengths to the valve covers. It's a 1600 duel port. _________________ Gas, Grass or Ass ? No one rides to the show for free!! |
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kielbasa Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2007 Posts: 1443 Location: Garbage Grove, CA
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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You do realize they will fit on the back half of the shroud. Ans when you pull a motor there will be no hoses to disconnect. _________________ Gotta give my props to:
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slalombuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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The hoses can be any length, just use at least 1/2 inch hose. As said before mount it high. I've mounted them on the back of the shroud before using weld in tabs. Keeps everything clean and simple and you can pull everything out with the motor.
brad
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bustedtype2 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks brad
I just really would hate to drill any holes in my shoud. _________________ Gas, Grass or Ass ? No one rides to the show for free!! |
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kielbasa Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nut serts... _________________ Gotta give my props to:
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vwracerdave Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:51 am Post subject: |
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A 1600 does not need any auxillary breather box. Just put one of those small $8 filters on the oil filler tube is all you need. _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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bustedtype2 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:57 am Post subject: |
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I used to run my bus with one of those small filters you are suggesting. I found on long trips "Fresno to Sacramento or San Jose" the oil dip stick would get pushed up and after a while things would start to leak. I was told by the guys at CB performance that with a 1600 in a bus with a stock Trans and reduction boxes I am running to high of RPM and have way to much pressure being generated in the eng. I put the breather on and it worked. I just had a Trans built for me with 4.12 gearing and changed tire size to 195 70s. I believe this should also help. _________________ Gas, Grass or Ass ? No one rides to the show for free!! |
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Eaallred Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:51 am Post subject: |
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I don't vent valve covers anymore. Put a larger vent on the crankcase if possible. _________________ Eric Allred
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bustedtype2 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: |
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YES!
I do agree changing or adjusting the valves is harder to do know with vented valve covers. Vent the case ? _________________ Gas, Grass or Ass ? No one rides to the show for free!! |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:38 am Post subject: |
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I only vent the 1/2 valve cover, run a line from my oil pump block off and run a CB oil filler breather box without any baffles under it. I use one small filter at the top of it
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chrisflstf Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Nice motor, but doesnt the left side carb arm linkage mount to the bottom of the center mount, rather than the top, to make less of an angle? |
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Greezy Joe Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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slalombuggy wrote: |
I only vent the 1/2 valve cover, run a line from my oil pump block off and run a CB oil filler breather box without any baffles under it. I use one small filter at the top of it
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What's up with all the Kitty Litter under that motor
Just messin' with ya
Sarcasm button Off, Seriously tho...I run both valve covers and the Oil/Alt Stand to a Box and added a breather filter to the top, mounted to the firewall. Adjusting valves is not hard, pull the cover and let it hang there.
Oh and the oil spot there is from the block off plate for the type 3 dipstick and has been fixed
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slalombuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:37 am Post subject: |
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New motor blues Seems I can build leakproof motors for customers, but not for myself....well not first shot. First time I ever used bigmouth PR tubes. After I put the big springs in the heads it was all good. Had the heads off to do that.
The carb linkage is too tall for the Comp Eliminator manifolds and I got it 7 days before I left to Bonneville. The carbs were synch'd at full throttle I think I bolted it in from the bottom after this picture was taken, this is right after the break in. I had to shorten the center section to get them to work at all and there is a bolt that drops the rear one to clear the alternator
I never had any oil spray issues I think the combination of a big hole under the stand (no baffle plate) and the breather box being right there kills all the air velocity coming out of the crank case so it doesn't spray out the vent
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MotoGreg Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:51 am Post subject: |
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What oil filter is that? A car that I recently bought has a giant Fram PH8A filter and right now it's under the right rear fender... and I want to put an A1 Sidewinder exhaust on, so this weekend I was going to see about relocating the filter to the left side, like yours is, but I'd like to get a smaller filter like yours so it doesn't hang down so close to the ground. |
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slalombuggy Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Fram PH3614
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MotoGreg Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Great, I'm going to pick one up tomorrow, thank you very much. |
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