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wildenbeast
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I am also looking for an awning. There is one I like in the classifieds but it is for local pickup only and quite a distance away...
On my old Adventurewagen, I had a very simple and cheap system that worked well. It had a metal slider near the top of the roof. The tent / awning had a plastic end on one side that slid into the metal receptacle.
Awning in place:
A good look at the permanently attached metal receptacle:
A close up of the metal receptacle:
The only down side is that the tent and poles needed a small storage space inside the van.
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joseph928
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| Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:46 pm Post subject: shady boy |
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| I still thing a shady boy trumps all other awnings. I love not haveing legs touching the ground |
 I love mine 3 min. set up, handles wind great ,takes rain great to, half the cost of a Fiamma ,and has a nice metal case. This is mine only have the small rope on each corner. Also if a big wind comes up the poles bend, or to much rain the poles bend and then all is OK. If you have a Fiamma they bend and your out a lot of $. They are hooked to the van up high can still walk around the van with no problem! Comes with the legs and all fits in the case. 
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syncrodoka
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Had a shady boy on my last van and decided not to drill holes into the roof of the new van to install it. I had the optional vertical poles and always used them since the wind makes it move around a lot. I never liked it that much and neither did the GF.
Bought a 8' fiamma off craigslist for $100 and am much happier with it. |
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peaceful warrior
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Had a shady boy on my last van and decided not to drill holes into the roof of the new van to install it. I had the optional vertical poles and always used them since the wind makes it move around a lot. I never liked it that much and neither did the GF.
Bought a 8' fiamma off craigslist for $100 and am much happier with it. |
That is what is turning me off to it. I down want to drill into the roof either. It was bad enough to drill into the pillars for Fiamma brackets.
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vw7266
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| I wasnt too concerned about holes...they are under the camper top on my van...Plus I dont get bent out of shape drilling holes for something so useful. I guess I can understand why some dont like holes |
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SCM
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So, is it basically the case that the SHADY Boy is really just good for providing shelter from the sun while the Fiamma is what you want when you need shelter from the rain and wind?
It seems the SB is best for desert dwellers while the Fiamma is what those of us in the windy wet northwest would probably prefer.
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syncromike
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Anyone know how an Ezy awning attaches to the top of a vanagon? The Bus Depot site says no permanent mounting points or holes, but one of the close up pics of the corner of the awning sure makes it look like a bracket is bolted to the roof of the van.
I've tried in vain several different methods to secure a cheap-o K-mart awning to the side of the van and it either doesn't hold with the slightest gust of wind or starts to shred the nylon and/or scratch up the paint.
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Timwhy
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Anyone know how an Ezy awning attaches to the top of a vanagon? The Bus Depot site says no permanent mounting points or holes, but one of the close up pics of the corner of the awning sure makes it look like a bracket is bolted to the roof of the van.
I've tried in vain several different methods to secure a cheap-o K-mart awning to the side of the van and it either doesn't hold with the slightest gust of wind or starts to shred the nylon and/or scratch up the paint.
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The EZ Awning uses these clamps to secure the awning to the rain gutter.
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vw7266
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So, is it basically the case that the SHADY Boy is really just good for providing shelter from the sun while the Fiamma is what you want when you need shelter from the rain and wind?
It seems the SB is best for desert dwellers while the Fiamma is what those of us in the windy wet northwest would probably prefer. |
Id probably disagree...I think a shady boy awning is good for anywhere. I was camping with a group last year and the awning that failed in the rain storm was the fiamma |
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syncromike
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:28 am Post subject: Re: ezy |
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| Timwhy wrote: |
| The EZ Awning uses these clamps to secure the awning to the rain gutter. |
Thanks Timwhy! That's very helpful.
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madspaniard
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No reason for the Fiamma to fail in rain storm if properly used and you follow the instructions. Use the tension rafters and tie downs and you are good to go.
I really like my F45S 10 ft, plenty of shelter for the family. This is one thing I don't have to worry about.
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peaceful warrior
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| SCM wrote: |
So, is it basically the case that the SHADY Boy is really just good for providing shelter from the sun while the Fiamma is what you want when you need shelter from the rain and wind?
It seems the SB is best for desert dwellers while the Fiamma is what those of us in the windy wet northwest would probably prefer. |
Id probably disagree...I think a shady boy awning is good for anywhere. I was camping with a group last year and the awning that failed in the rain storm was the fiamma |
Why would the Fiamma fail in a rain storm? High wind, not tethered, staked? Don't make a comment with an explanation of why. That is absolutely of no help.
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I miss my old Fiamma. I admit, that after my damaging it due to failure to follow the mounting instructions I knee-jerked and sold it. I'd like to buy another soon.
I really like the shady boy because its compact and light, but I don't like that you need to drill into the roof to mount it. If I need to drill, I'd rather make two holes for the Fiamma, than 4 for the Shady boy.
Has anyone comeup with an alternative?
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| I may have a lead on a transawn2000 (fingers crossed), so transawn 2000 owners talk to me. Pros cons, weight?, pics, anything. Thanks in advance |
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| I may have a lead on a transawn2000 (fingers crossed), so transawn 2000 owners talk to me. Pros cons, weight?, pics, anything. Thanks in advance |
You'll now want to venture over to the TransAwn 2000 thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443718 . 
The only major con is the case opens down, so you'll need a method of holding the tray up when deployed; otherwise, the sliding door will scrape against it. My method is cam-straps:
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joseph928
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| Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:52 pm Post subject: shady boy |
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I miss my old Fiamma. I admit, that after my damaging it due to failure to follow the mounting instructions I knee-jerked and sold it. I'd like to buy another soon.
I really like the shady boy because its compact and light, but I don't like that you need to drill into the roof to mount it. If I need to drill, I'd rather make two holes for the Fiamma, than 4 for the Shady boy.
Has anyone comeup with an alternative? |
Don't have to drill holes. I just mount it to my Yakima roof rack towers, works great!
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obnoxiousblue
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| Don't have to drill holes. I just mount it to my Yakima roof rack towers, works great! |
That would be an awesome idea... If I didn't have a Westy roof  lol
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| I may have a lead on a transawn2000 (fingers crossed), so transawn 2000 owners talk to me. Pros cons, weight?, pics, anything. Thanks in advance |
You'll now want to venture over to the TransAwn 2000 thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443718 .
The only major con is the case opens down, so you'll need a method of holding the tray up when deployed; otherwise, the sliding door will scrape against it. My method is cam-straps:
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That's weird - I've had my TransAwn 2000 on three different Vanagons and none of them had any clearance issues with the slider. I wonder which version of the awning mounts you're using?
Living where we do, I really like that the case turns into an eaves trough; that way I can slant the awning back toward the van and all the collected rainwater gets channeled through the gutter.
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vw7266
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:58 am Post subject: Re: shady boy |
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| Don't have to drill holes. I just mount it to my Yakima roof rack towers, works great! |
That would be an awesome idea... If I didn't have a Westy roof lol |
couple of holes arent going to hurt your van |
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| I may have a lead on a transawn2000 (fingers crossed), so transawn 2000 owners talk to me. Pros cons, weight?, pics, anything. Thanks in advance |
You'll now want to venture over to the TransAwn 2000 thread: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443718 .
The only major con is the case opens down, so you'll need a method of holding the tray up when deployed; otherwise, the sliding door will scrape against it. My method is cam-straps:
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That's weird - I've had my TransAwn 2000 on three different Vanagons and none of them had any clearance issues with the slider. I wonder which version of the awning mounts you're using?
Living where we do, I really like that the case turns into an eaves trough; that way I can slant the awning back toward the van and all the collected rainwater gets channeled through the gutter. |
We have 2 trans-awns at the house and neither one has ever scrapped the slider. Perhaps the mounting isn't upright enough on the one scrapping. For me the biggest down side is the weight....pretty heavy. On one of the vans here which has had the trans awn for years, it is starting to seperate the metal at the raingutter due to the weight.
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