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zuggbug Samba Member
Joined: June 17, 2008 Posts: 3479 Location: Anderson SC
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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very nice work
what kind of spot welder is that? _________________ SOUTHERN INTEGRITY AIRCOOLERS
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Tuned Perfection Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2003 Posts: 263 Location: Port Colborne, ON, Canada
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VWsArent4Hippies Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 3079 Location: The Bull City
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Do you plan on making the inner skylights like original in the future? |
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Mikee Samba A.D.D. Boy
Joined: March 22, 2004 Posts: 3510 Location: Puyallup WA
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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: Vw Bus sunroof Conversion camper to 23 window |
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Grumpy's Metal wrote: |
I know that nothing is perfect but I take a lot of pride in doing my best.
John |
I like this quote!! _________________
localboymark wrote: |
One man's "patina" is another man's cancer. |
bugnut68 wrote: |
I would have kicked the guy right in the dick, balls, ass and face and destroyed his weed. Hippies suck. |
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Grumpy's Metal Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Huntington Beach California
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:26 am Post subject: |
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zuggbug wrote: |
very nice work
what kind of spot welder is that? |
Thanks Zuggbug- The spot welder is by HTP America, I have their TIG welder too, it's good stuff if you are looking.
Tuned Perfection wrote: |
Looks great John! |
Thank you, Thank you
VWsArent4Hippies wrote: |
Do you plan on making the inner skylights like original in the future? |
Errr-- yes, I presume you are asking if I will offer replacement sections and a single long stamped part with the center already cut out.
Mikee wrote: |
Grumpy's Metal wrote: |
I know that nothing is perfect but I take a lot of pride in doing my best.
John |
I like this quote!! |
THANKS- _________________ John
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Grumpy's Metal Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Huntington Beach California
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:36 am Post subject: |
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ALSO-- HERE is a link to my new facebook page- You should find more current stuff there and in the future I will be sending out promotions out via facebook too
http://www.facebook.com/VwSunroofs?sk=wall
I'm still new to facebook so I have not figured out the cool link yet
John _________________ John
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VWsArent4Hippies Samba Member
Joined: April 13, 2005 Posts: 3079 Location: The Bull City
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Grumpy's Metal wrote: |
VWsArent4Hippies wrote: |
Do you plan on making the inner skylights like original in the future? |
Errr-- yes, I presume you are asking if I will offer replacement sections and a single long stamped part with the center already cut out. |
Well not just one big piece but inners with the skylight holes pressed like originals. The way yours are seem more like early barndoor style? |
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Grumpy's Metal Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Huntington Beach California
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Hey VwRNt4Hipp- Yes my install is more like barndoor than later vw, but dimensionally the same as original.
Do the install the same as barndoor takes less tooling and less time so I've done it that way.
John _________________ John
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motoroadie Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2008 Posts: 8 Location: huntington beach
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Grumpy, it was great meeting you today and am thoroughly stoked on what you've been able to do with sunroofs. See you soon! |
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Grumpy's Metal Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Huntington Beach California
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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The welder I have is the HTP versa spot 7000- I actually own three spot welders
here are the new stamped corners for the conversions
Motoroadie-- great meeting you too-- Can't wait to see the bus!
Cheers
John _________________ John
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Jack-In-A-Crack Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 10 Location: Palm Coast, FL
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Grumpy's Metal Work & Hardtop to 21/23 |
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Grumpy's Metal wrote: |
Hello All,
The work and images I post in this thread is how I earn my living. If you have seen my work and have an opinion feel free to express it. But I would respectfully ask; if you are a "purist" and wish to contribute please don't, could you please take that information to another thread as that is not what this thread is about.
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John,
I'm glad I discovered this thread.
This is great stuff you are doing and as soon as you have a complete bus sunroof kit with roof metal inclusive I will be getting in line to buy one. I'm no purist and all my builds have been customs. I would love to build a custom 23-window bus or variation thereof that started it's life as a common kombi, standard, or panel.
Regarding your critic's, well what you have accomplished is no simple task and anything this complex takes a lot of tweaking. You should be proud of what you are accomplishing and I am sure there are a lot of bus enthusiasts who will be thankful for the opportunity to purchase and install your products.
Hat's off to you my friend
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64+65doubledoor Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2009 Posts: 165 Location: Bowral
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:22 am Post subject: sunroof |
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x2 great work and congrats on getting this up and running ,great to see a small business move forward with new innovations even if its not to everyones likings _________________ March 55 Wolfsburg bus
march 54 barndoor s.c
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Grumpy's Metal Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Huntington Beach California
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Hey Guys, Thanks
I've been crazy bus with the Vwsunroofs.com parts and the conversion kit AND MOVING THE SHOP
We've moved to a larger building-
there are some new photos at
http://www.facebook.com/VwSunroofs
The kit is almost done, I just want to make it as easy to install as possible the better I do my job the easier it will be to install
Thanks
John _________________ John
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captcory Samba Member
Joined: January 20, 2010 Posts: 101 Location: swfl
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:23 am Post subject: |
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will you be making corner windows? |
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Grumpy's Metal Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Huntington Beach California
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:29 am Post subject: |
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captcory wrote: |
will you be making corner windows? |
Yes, eventually Grumpy's Metal will be making corner windows. Vwsunroofs.com will eventually stock all the parts that are specific to sunroof buses- It's takes a lot of time to get everything right, so it's slow going. _________________ John
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Grumpy's Metal Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2004 Posts: 145 Location: Huntington Beach California
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: Vwsunroofs.com 13 window to 21 conversion kit installation |
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Grumpy's Metal has been converting hard top buses to ragtop/ sunroof buses at our shop. We use tooling that actually fits under the hardtop roof producing the same aesthetics of an original 21 or 23
Grumpy's Metal is now producing a conversion kit. Over the next several weeks I will be showing how to install a sunroof conversion kit.
All the exterior metal on this bus started it's life as a hard top from the factory. We modified the metal ( not welded ) to be window openings and the sunroof opening.
here is a picture of a the new assembly ( all parts are interchangeable with an original )
For those of you doing 12 and 23 window conversion I will be including important information to get the assembly to function correctly and discuss window placement, rail alignment and inner window fitment.
The outer skin of the roof will get 4 components add to it.
1. front header panel with 2 windows
2. rear header panel with 4 windows
3. window above drivers door
4 window above passenger door
here is an image of the prototype done over a month ago. We have produced several revisions to make everything fit and look as close to original as possible.
here is the fitment of the front header panel without the bead feature
here is the same panel with the bead feature
Converting a hard top to a ragtop with windows 13 to 21 window conversion.
laying out the roof- here a ruler is used against the door opening ( b-pillar )
here is the line marked on the roof ( Zero Line ) this is the line measurements are made from.
measure back from the zero line, 3 inches- mark this on both sides ( first rough cut line)
using a long ruler or tape measure back 72 inches- mark this on both sides
(second rough cut line)
Also using the long steel ruler, in the drip rail mark a line running down the side of the bus
I use a long piece of steel clamped from one side of the roof to the other to lay out my first rough cut line. ( mark it)
using the same steel piece clamped at the rear, on the 2nd rough cut line- mark it
now all the rough cut lines are laid out 1 front, 1 rear, 2 sides
using an air chisel, cut from one side of the roof to the other along the 1st rough cut line and also the 2nd rough cut line.
roof panel is cut
once the four rough cut lines are cut- middle of the roof panel will still be attached by the enter stiffener
using a wide air chisel blade break free the roof panel, as to not damage the stiffener.
Once the stiffener and roof panel are separated the entire middle section of the roof will be easy to remove _________________ John
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sonnyswords Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2011 Posts: 21 Location: Foster City, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I just purchase the conversion kit and I hope to pick it up by end of next month. I will take pictures and document step by step to show others who are interested. I don't have any experience in welding, as matter of fact I just purchase a welder last week. I figure if I can do this then most people who have some experience in welding should have no problem doing this. |
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Muggee007 Samba Member
Joined: December 16, 2011 Posts: 44 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:34 am Post subject: |
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Ill be watching this really closely as well. I have a really rough clip with pieces of Grumpy's metal that I will be installing in my 64 Kombi. No sky lights. If anyone has any measurements on how to center the hole left to right it would really help me out. I have a month or so before I start cutting but I hope my build thread will show some progress soon. |
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7050 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Muggee007 wrote: |
Ill be watching this really closely as well. I have a really rough clip with pieces of Grumpy's metal that I will be installing in my 64 Kombi. No sky lights. If anyone has any measurements on how to center the hole left to right it would really help me out. I have a month or so before I start cutting but I hope my build thread will show some progress soon. |
left to right centering should be easy, front to back will need some measurements. _________________ regards
Uli
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'53 3-Fold Oval, L35 Metallic Blue, looking for a narrow hatch panel |
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65VW69Stang Samba Member
Joined: June 22, 2012 Posts: 16 Location: Rapid City South Dakota
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Hell Ya keep them coming the pics I am wanting to finish my bus out that way, making 3 into one, will end up with a 15 window walk thru, and would love to make it 23 window with sunroof, email me with prices with metal and windows and everthing that comes with it, thanks.
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