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wrstp Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:04 pm Post subject: 70 camper rust repair |
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Bill dropped his 70 off for rust repairs and I got a start on it today. Its got a lot of the normal rust and quite a few dents that need to be fixed. I didn't get a chance to take a pic of the whole bus but will before I finish. Today I started to cut up the left dogleg and floor.
Looks like a small fender bender that previous owner tried to repair.
Some of the normal rust.
The floor I got cleaned up and removed in one piece to use as a template for the new panel. |
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wrstp Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Once the floor was removed I started to cut out the rust in the wheel well.
I used some 1/2" tape to mark my cut line just above the rust.
Once the piece was removed I used it as a template to make a new panel from 20 gauge metal. I first made a few marks where the shape needs to be and used some tubing to roll the metal over.
I traced the rusted piece and used the 1/2" tape to transfer the lip that holds the floor.
I don't have a bead roll with a tipping die at home so out comes the duckbills.
I used my small duckbills around the rolled areas. Doing this tends to flatten out the shape so a little shaping with the shrinker/stretcher is needed.
Again not having a beadroll to make the steps on the end I had to resort to hand tools. I saw this chisel trick on a metal shaping site and it worked great. Make sure your chisel is blunt and take your time working both sides. A little smoothing with the hammer and dolly and the panel is ready for fitting.
After some fitting the panel is ready to weld. I made some reference marks before cutting to get the height right and double checked with the straight edge.
Taking my time welding and grinding a couple times during the welding for a rust free wheel well ready for the floor. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16863 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
i stopped posting stuff about rust repair. now, i just answer a bunch of PM's or emails asking what to do.....
don't know, guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...
again, killer work. and i know what it takes to do it right _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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wrstp Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
i stopped posting stuff about rust repair. now, i just answer a bunch of PM's or emails asking what to do.....
don't know, guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...
again, killer work. and i know what it takes to do it right |
Skills its not about being a "rockstar" its about giving back to a great community the only way I know how and that's repairing rust. I have taken from this site for many years and learned a lot so posting some pics and a few tricks I have learned over the years is just a small thank you to all who share there knowledge. This includes you so thanks for all you and many others do for v-dubs. |
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taylorb1 Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2012 Posts: 709 Location: Canton, Georgia
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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If EVERYONE used the search functions, got there info from the Bently, and stopped with 1 rust repair post...... There would be no more posting on the samba. _________________ It's not dented, it's just been environmentally streamlined!
76 STD Bug-Sold
71 Transporter Converted To Camper. |
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levi20AE Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2005 Posts: 485 Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Yondermtn Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2007 Posts: 609 Location: Illinois
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Looking forward to following this thread as I did the previous rust repair thread. |
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Joey Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005 Posts: 5366 Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yondermtn wrote: |
Looking forward to following this thread as I did the previous rust repair thread. |
Me too! Please keep the pics and info coming! _________________ Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
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Colonel_Mustard Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2010 Posts: 400 Location: Newfoundland
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Vince Waldon Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2010 Posts: 451 Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Beautiful beautiful beautiful welding.
By comparison, I weep at the stuff I'm subjecting my poor bus to. |
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Amskeptic Samba Member
Joined: October 18, 2002 Posts: 8568 Location: All Across The Country
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
guess i am just getting bitter in my old age... |
This is true for everyone. Makes you move up to the next level, which is to do good work for the intrinsic satisfaction, not the accolades.
SharkJumpedOldRockStar _________________ www.itinerant-air-cooled.com |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22448 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Amskeptic wrote: |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
guess i am just getting bitter in my old age... |
This is true for everyone. Makes you move up to the next level, which is to do good work for the intrinsic satisfaction, not the accolades.
SharkJumpedOldRockStar |
If that actually happened then there really would be any posting after awhile
Very nice work mr poster! _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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wrstp wrote: |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
looks good buddy! but, i got to tell ya, after your last thread, once people know what you can do it appears you are only a rock star once.
i stopped posting stuff about rust repair. now, i just answer a bunch of PM's or emails asking what to do.....
don't know, guess i am just getting bitter in my old age...
again, killer work. and i know what it takes to do it right |
Skills its not about being a "rockstar" its about giving back to a great community the only way I know how and that's repairing rust. I have taken from this site for many years and learned a lot so posting some pics and a few tricks I have learned over the years is just a small thank you to all who share there knowledge. This includes you so thanks for all you and many others do for v-dubs. |
Right on bus buddies. Thank you all VERY MUCH! One can never get enough education from the Genius Masters. We can always learn MORE. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
Life is short. Can I have some of yours? |
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:23 am Post subject: |
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I have got to get me a shrinker/stretcher and learn how to use it. _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
'72 Westfalia |
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wrstp Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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barefootwestie wrote: |
I have got to get me a shrinker/stretcher and learn how to use it. |
Barefoot here is the set I have from eastwood. I made my own adjustable stand on wheels. There is lots of info on the web on how to use them as they can come in handy.
http://www.eastwood.com/shrinker-stretcher-combo-set-two-bodiestwo-jaws.html |
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barefootwestie Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2005 Posts: 1551 Location: Johns Island, SC
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for that info. Would love to be able to learn how to create some of the pieces you are doing. I have some repairs in the exact same location. _________________ My Bus Restoration Blog
https://myvolkswagenbus.com/
1973 Westfalia
"Getting better....one repair at a time."
Other VW's owned through the years, in no particular order:
'67 Beetle,
'67 Ghia Hardtop,
'72 Ghia Convertible,
'72 Westfalia |
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wrstp Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2007 Posts: 206
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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I removed the dogleg to make easy access to the b-pillar inner panel and splash area today. The inner b-pillar was pretty crusty so out comes the cut off wheel.
I made a nice template on a previous bus to make things quicker and it fits pretty good. I fit the panel behind the b-pillar and mark it for the step.
Once marked I used 1/4" tape to transfer the line over.
One of the few times I use my steppers.
I didn't get it welded in but prepped the areas for welding. I also thought I would pass on my double sided roloc I use to clean the lip of the b-pillar.
I like to take two 3" rolocs and remove the plastic thread from one and drill a hole.
The hole needs to be just big enough to fit over the 2nd plastic thread.
A 2" rubber roloc pad is needed to use this but works nice for those blind lips.
I also started to make the floor panel I cut out earlier and should be ready to start putting it back together in the next couple days. |
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CoastalAirCooledVW Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2012 Posts: 1882 Location: Mckinleyville, CA (Humboldt County)
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Forgive my metal working ignorance but what is at the top of the panel you made shown here? Looks like something to hold up the panel... _________________ 1966 Velvet Green Standard |
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Dynamite_Goat Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2007 Posts: 135 Location: Julian, CA
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Shahn Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2009 Posts: 175 Location: SF Bay Area
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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for taking the time to post this. It's very helpful to see the various stages of this process. And I just plain love to see a bus rehabilitated. You are doing Dog's work. |
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