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ncstagger Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2010 Posts: 284 Location: Fayetteville, NC
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: "Correct" mirror position? |
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Referring to the side mirrors and whether or not they should be vertical or horizontal.
Not talking about personal preference but what was the factory original position.
I have seen inconsistent positioning in the VW literature. Owners manuals show vertical positioning for 68-70 then horizontal for 71-up, however...the campmobile 70 booklet (which came with some 71-up buses) shows a vertical position. I have seen the vertical position in other, late bay westphalia literature as well.
So, not a real big deal or anything, I'm just interested in what the stock setting was. Maybe it varied? _________________ 71 Westy Tintop - 1600 DP 34PICT3/009 - Pastel White
Resto thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=549162
"Take your most realistic time frame and dollar amount.. then add half of that amount. When you get that total... double it. Only then will you be in the ballpark." - sofaking |
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atmellovw Samba Member
Joined: September 05, 2006 Posts: 1652 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:31 am Post subject: |
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I recall from prior discussions that the consensus (at least as close to one as Samba members can get!) was that the drivers side should be vertically oriented and the passenger side horizontally oriented? But I guess the best configuration is what helps you see the best. _________________ 1972 Westy ("Bubbles") - Pastel White - 1700(1974 MT) - Dual Solex |
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sunnydog Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2012 Posts: 622 Location: SW WA
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Normally I wouldn't care so much, do whatever you want. But because you have a 71 pastel white westy (like me), I'm gonna throw in my two cents. As you noted, the cover of the 1971 owner's manual show mirrors horizontal, but then again one of the interior pages (door functions, I think) shows driver's side mirror vertical.
Here's a blurry photo, but this is the day my '71 Westy came home from the dealer to my family in London. I am the two year old in the stocking cap on Mom's lap.
So stock for me, is side mirrors = Horizontal. Straight from the dealer. YMMV.
My full thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=528538
Speaking of which, I gotta update that thread with some new photos and more info! Thanks for reminding me! _________________ '71 Westy w/ a 1776 singleport, 34P3 & 205Q. Points.
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bsairhead Samba Member
Joined: October 08, 2008 Posts: 3580 Location: viroqua wi.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Horizontal in the winter and vertical in the summer. |
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Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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It's just your personal choice of whether you want to watch gophers and airplanes or cars in the lanes next to you. _________________ 71 Superbug
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fusername Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2006 Posts: 2897 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think some folks dug thru the old literature, and found both from the factory!
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Confucious says man who tries to tell others how to put their mirrors is wasting his precious time on earth same as man who tries to teach a pig to fly.
_________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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kreemoweet Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2008 Posts: 3899 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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It's like asking what's the "factory original position" of the fresh air
ventilation outlet louvers. Pfft. _________________ '67 bug: seized by the authorities
'68 bug: seized by the authorities
'71 kombi: not yet seized by the authorities
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ncstagger Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2010 Posts: 284 Location: Fayetteville, NC
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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ok, so it seems there is no "correct" factory position...its up to us.
personally i like the way they look vertical but they operate better horizontal so that's how i'll roll. _________________ 71 Westy Tintop - 1600 DP 34PICT3/009 - Pastel White
Resto thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=549162
"Take your most realistic time frame and dollar amount.. then add half of that amount. When you get that total... double it. Only then will you be in the ballpark." - sofaking |
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ncstagger Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2010 Posts: 284 Location: Fayetteville, NC
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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sunnydog wrote: |
Normally I wouldn't care so much, do whatever you want. But because you have a 71 pastel white westy (like me), I'm gonna throw in my two cents. As you noted, the cover of the 1971 owner's manual show mirrors horizontal, but then again one of the interior pages (door functions, I think) shows driver's side mirror vertical.
Here's a blurry photo, but this is the day my '71 Westy came home from the dealer to my family in London. I am the two year old in the stocking cap on Mom's lap.
So stock for me, is side mirrors = Horizontal. Straight from the dealer. YMMV.
My full thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=528538
Speaking of which, I gotta update that thread with some new photos and more info! Thanks for reminding me! |
nice pic! _________________ 71 Westy Tintop - 1600 DP 34PICT3/009 - Pastel White
Resto thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=549162
"Take your most realistic time frame and dollar amount.. then add half of that amount. When you get that total... double it. Only then will you be in the ballpark." - sofaking |
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fusername Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2006 Posts: 2897 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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alternatly: the stock position was with the mirrors oriented correctly, of course! _________________ [email protected]
Need something custom bent up? shoot me an email, maybe we can make it work!
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ned Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2004 Posts: 1574 Location: Arroyo Grande Ca.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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The definate answer is, vertical as you get better gas mileage that way. |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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I prefer vertical; it's less likely my kids will bump into it that way in the garage. _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
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Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:03 am Post subject: |
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A drastically greater side to side view when horizontal. On a one lane road it probably doesn't matter but on a multiple lane road it sure does matter. How many wrecks have you been in? Just kidding. and I'm tired of people bumping my mirrors at car shows also. _________________ 71 Superbug
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Stuartzickefoose Samba Post Whore
Joined: February 07, 2008 Posts: 10350 Location: SoCal for now...
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:21 am Post subject: |
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anyone bother to search on this one? its been discussed a million times...i was told so last time i asked... _________________ Stuart Zickefoose
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rebel1968 Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2012 Posts: 147 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:48 am Post subject: |
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put them vertical like a splitty much better vision
also get a type 3 squareback internal rear vision mirror it craps all over the original |
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EZ Gruv King of Plaid
Joined: December 10, 2002 Posts: 8544 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Desertbusman wrote: |
How many wrecks have you been in? Just kidding. and I'm tired of people bumping my mirrors at car shows also. |
None that were a result of mirror placement (or were my fault at all). Ha! _________________ Eric
1977 Deluxe Westfalia - 2.0L FI Type IV, Completely Original
Photographer for HotVWs, VolksWorld, AirMighty, VW Camper & Commercial, Hayburner, and more.
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 2945 Location: East Northport, NY
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: |
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rebel1968 wrote: |
put them vertical like a splitty much better vision
also get a type 3 squareback internal rear vision mirror it craps all over the original |
What's different from the stock bus mirror?
I just looked in the classified, and think I'd prefer my "anti dazzle" mirror.
Just curious. _________________ Mike
1964 Beetle
2001 Eurovan Camper |
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rebel1968 Samba Member
Joined: February 15, 2012 Posts: 147 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Square back day and night mirror longer stem perfect height at eye level unless your built like a giraffe
But different profile at top of stem
Got one in my dualcab |
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obnoxiousblue Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2007 Posts: 2945 Location: East Northport, NY
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like what I already have in my bus. M code says it was a factory option. Hrm. I'll have to check the numbers. _________________ Mike
1964 Beetle
2001 Eurovan Camper |
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