| Author |
Message |
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
 Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:36 am Post subject: Identify these hubcaps |
 |
|
I am trying to identify these hubcaps. They look to be 66/67 hubcaps, but I can't tell if they are aftermarket from the picture.
What do you think? Is there a way to tell aftermarket from original?
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
GB2S
Samba Member
Joined: October 27, 2003
Posts: 1011
Location: Omaha
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
Do they have the 2 holes on the edge for the hubcap puller? Given the raised emblem I'd guess Aftermarket.
Geoff
_________________
1963 Ragtop |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
| GB2S wrote: |
Do they have the 2 holes on the edge for the hubcap puller? Given the raised emblem I'd guess Aftermarket.
Geoff |
They do have the two holes on the side. It looks to have a lip which I think makes it 66/67.
The raised emblem is normal for the 66/67. Unfortunately I do not have them with me to compare with a German one for weight and feel.
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notsnarb
Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006
Posts: 845
Location: MI
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
| They are 66/67 hubcaps. Go put them on the kitchen scale, OG VW weigh close to 500gram each. I have a NOS set here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
| branston wrote: |
| They are 66/67 hubcaps. Go put them on the kitchen scale, OG VW weigh close to 500gram each. I have a NOS set here. |
Interesting... I never knew that. As a follow up do you know how much the after markets usually weigh?
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Joey
Samba Member
Joined: August 12, 2005
Posts: 5366
Location: Nova Scotia - Canada
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
There should also be three square raised bumps on the inside lip like so:
_________________
Joey
‘60 Kombi - '74 Bus - '79 Panel - '65 Beetle |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notsnarb
Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006
Posts: 845
Location: MI
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:59 am Post subject: |
|
|
| physast wrote: |
| branston wrote: |
| They are 66/67 hubcaps. Go put them on the kitchen scale, OG VW weigh close to 500gram each. I have a NOS set here. |
Interesting... I never knew that. As a follow up do you know how much the after markets usually weigh? |
less  |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:53 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Well I do not see any raised square bumps on the inside lip. Are these on all original 66/67 hubcaps?
| branston wrote: |
| less |
 
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
stale air
Samba Member
Joined: August 23, 2007
Posts: 5148
Location: Senoia Ga, formally NorCal
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Are you sure they are for a 5 lug? The reason I ask is, that back in the late 80's I had a set of aftermarket 4 lug caps on my super that looked alot like what you have.
_________________
WANTED: Henry Veale Santa Rosa plate frames
WANTED: Brittsan Motors Fresno plate frames
WANTED: Any Georgia plate frames
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
kevhum
Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2008
Posts: 726
Location: State of Jefferson
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| those look like they could be type three hubcaps.I'm not sure of the years but some of the type three hubcaps had the center section where the vw logo is raised higher then on bug hubcaps.Maybe they were raised for axial nut clearance? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notsnarb
Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006
Posts: 845
Location: MI
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:28 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I don't see the 3 raised bumps on my NOS set and I need to pull my old set of my 66 to investigate. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
EverettB 
Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000
Posts: 69809
Location: Phoenix Metro
|
| Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| kevhum wrote: |
| those look like they could be type three hubcaps.I'm not sure of the years but some of the type three hubcaps had the center section where the vw logo is raised higher then on bug hubcaps.Maybe they were raised for axial nut clearance? |
They are not Type 3 caps. 66-67 Type 3s do have a larger raised center but they are 4-lug caps.
Those are 5-lug caps since they have the double lip around the edge to snap into the 66-67 Bug wheel.
They do look strange though.
66-67 Type 3 caps with "big nipple" center:
Double lip style, used on 5-lug 61-65 Type 3 hub caps and 66-67 Bug hub caps:
(But those are not Type 3 5-lug caps)
_________________
How to Post Photos
Everett Barnes - [email protected] | My wanted ads
"Water is the only drink for a wise man" | "Communication prevents complaints"
Stop dead photo links! Post your photos to The Samba Gallery! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
Here is another picture of the hub caps I am trying to identify. So we can agree that they are 66/67 caps used on beetles, right?
I measured the weight and they were right at 453 grams. Maybe off a little bit.
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
notsnarb
Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2006
Posts: 845
Location: MI
|
| Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:26 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Such precise folk  so NOS set weights.
498 g
494 g
492 g
493 g |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've noticed that some also have the VW part raised on the cap while others have the VW part not raised.
Stolen from classifieds:
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
EverettB
Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000
Posts: 69809
Location: Phoenix Metro
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| EverettB wrote: |
For that style:
Sunken = Type 3
Raised = 66-67 Beetle
If you have some sunken ones that are nice, contact me and I will buy them. |
Amazing the amount of knowledge you gain from thesamba.com! I wish I did but do not have any sunken.
If you have a nice set of original raised I would be interested in those, just contact me.
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
cugir
Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007
Posts: 297
Location: WA
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
What's amazing is Ev's knowledge of VW's.
..not to mention his ability to pull engines on the roadside with a scissor jack. 
| physast wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
For that style:
Sunken = Type 3
Raised = 66-67 Beetle
If you have some sunken ones that are nice, contact me and I will buy them. |
Amazing the amount of knowledge you gain from thesamba.com! I wish I did but do not have any sunken.
If you have a nice set of original raised I would be interested in those, just contact me. |
_________________
remember, it's peanut butter THEN jelly, not the other way around... - Steve Upton |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| cugir wrote: |
..not to mention his ability to pull engines on the roadside with a scissor jack. |
Is there a sticky on this?
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
physast
Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2005
Posts: 675
Location: DC
|
| Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Does anyone have an original and an aftermarket 66/67 hubcap that they can take real good close up photos of to show the community.
Maybe a close up of the VW emblem, the back, the raised square, the pull holes and a overall shot...
Also if anyone has a set of good originals I would be interested in purchasing if the price is right.
_________________
1967 L633 VW beetle (currently being restored...slowly)
1991 Orly Blue Vanaru 2.5L |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
