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VOLKSWAGNUT
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 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:11 pm Post subject: Hella Fog Lamps TN1 TN2 What do I have here? With a picture. |
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I picked these Hella fog or driving lamps up at a non VW swap meet. Nice overall condition. Just need to get the overspray off of them. I have pulled them apart to inspect the bulbs. One is shot. What do I have here. I know it's probably not a VW light, but some insight as to what I "Picked" would be nice.
On the lens: Hella TN1-TN2 K8201 2-57764- Made in Germany SAE F65 SF-S5
Label inside TN2 1N1 001 173-04 K8201 115 ZNW-2 35W
SF-S5-45W
On the Bulb OSRAM 7309 12V 35W GERMANY K5304.
Now I know they are 35 watt and 12 volt that's easy to figure out. But for what? Over all diameter is about 5 inches or 127MM
They look pretty neat, Black housings with nice fluted lens, and will probably end up on my 68 D-cab someday.
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stale air
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I have a set somewhere also. They are off of a 70's-80's Mercedes-Benz.
Edit: I forgot I had a pic from back in the day when I ran them on my car.
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VOLKSWAGNUT
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Those are not quite the same though. You're probably right about them being Mercedes.
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Jake Martinez
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they are 914 porsche foglights
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VOLKSWAGNUT
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| Jake Martinez wrote: |
| they are 914 porsche foglights |
BAM right on the money. Thanks!!!
70-72 Porsche 914
Hella TN1-TN2 Fog Lamps: 1970 - 1972
The Hella TN1-TN2 fog light was available on the 1970-1972 Porsche 914 model years and the Porsche 914/6 models. They are round Hella lamps comprised of a semi-gloss black housing attached to the mount base with four unpainted brass rivets, a gloss-black painted brass trim ring, a reflector dish, a light diffuser, a 35 or 45 watt Phillips bulb, a 110mm Hella TN1-TN2 lens, a lens gasket, four wire lens clips, a wire grommet and a ring retainer clip (with screw). The lens has a horizontal offset about one-third the way up the vertical fluting. The trim ring is molded to angle the the ring face inward. The light diffuser that shields the bulb in the TN1-TN2 lamps is chrome.
http://www.p914.com/p914_lenses_fog.htm
http://www.p914.com/p914_lenses_fog-hella_tn1_components.htm
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Interesting, I wonder if both the Porsche and the Mercedes use the same ones? 
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:37 am Post subject: |
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The ones pictured above all seem slightly different from each other to me. Mine pictured below came off of a mid 60's mercedes....Very close to the others also.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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The Mercedes have chrome housings and the lens is different (T4) Notice the split line at the bottom of mine (T1-T2)
My housings are black. The Porsche links above nailed them as 70-72.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| stale air wrote: |
Interesting, I wonder if both the Porsche and the Mercedes use the same ones?
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No, those MB lights are larger.
However, the earlier MB sedans (200 series?) came with foglamps, but in the US those were swapped for amber running or turn signal lamps. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Jake Martinez wrote: |
| they are 914 porsche foglights |
| VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
The Mercedes have chrome housings and the lens is different (T4) Notice the split line at the bottom of mine (T1-T2)
My housings are black. The Porsche links above nailed them as 70-72. |
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No, those MB lights are larger.
However, the earlier MB sedans (200 series?) came with foglamps, but in the US those were swapped for amber running or turn signal lamps. |
Yes, I stand corrected, you guys are all correct. I took another look at mine, and even the mounting brackets are a little different on the MB ones as compared to the Porsche ones.
Great info, and now I know, thanks.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:18 am Post subject: |
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mercedes foglights are completey different the diameter even looks larger
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VOLKSWAGNUT
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:40 am Post subject: |
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My local supplier has the bulbs in stock. OSRAM 7309. 12 bucks my cost. 
Good pick. at $10 for the pair.
Love those kind of days.
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cool deal
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Does anyone know what the 6v equivalent for this bulb is?
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