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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 6:12 pm    Post subject: Rear Washer - Panel & Access to Reservoir Reply with quote

Looking for info on how to remove the panel on the rear RH side of the interior, so I can see what is up with the rear washer reservoir & pump.

Can't find anything in the freakin' Bentley or by searching here...

The snaps at the rear seem to be holding the trim panel in, but have no Phillips or Allen head fixture for removal...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

example of one of the snaps on the upper trim panel (which seems to hold in the lower panel)

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oooh, just a gues on my part but do you suppose that those snaps are rivetted through the panel right into the sheet metal? That would suck.

If you can remove the rest of the panel then slide some sort of fork type tool under the snap and pry a little bit...

Really though, I have not idea and am interested to follow what you learn here.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, riveted. You need to drill them out.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, I am amazed at VW engineering!

Where do you buy replacements that can be screwed in?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

find a sheet metal screw with a head low enough in profile so that the snaps will still work. What I mean is that you can easily find screws to fit and secure the snap, but the head might interfere with the mating of the other snap.

This is what I found when I re-did the interior panels on my old van. I did manage to find screws that worked. But another caution - try the screws out with snaps, but not installed in van, That way if you find a screw that works you haven't irreversibly enlarged the hole in the van sheet metal.

Have I made this sufficiently obscure?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes you have!

what get me, is that VW used screw on snaps for the frackin' curtains...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's b/c they wanted to sell you more curtains. They don't want your kids messing w/ the washer fluid and then suing them for not securing it! LOL

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yes you have!

what get me, is that VW used screw on snaps for the frackin' curtains...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not "VW" engineering at all. It was done by Westfalia Works. The snaps did not come from VW but were put on as part of the camper conversion outside the factory as well as the curtain screws. Blame the camper folks.

BTW, I thought the rivets were just on the panel. I thought I've taken mine off without having to drill them out but I could be wrong.

I've also put in lots of snaps with screws. You just need small sheet metal pan head screws. They work just fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just stripped my Westy interior and had to drilled a bunch of rivets to get various parts off. You can either use sheet metal screws or just replace the rivets.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently pulled that panel to check for corrosion and leaks. The rivets are easy to drill out. Use a drill that is slightly larger than the hole in the middle and carefully drill until the head separates. Do not drill clear through the supporting sheet metal!
After you have pulled the panel and done whatever work you need to do, be sure to clean the hole and touch up any chipped paint.

Note that some of the holes extend through to the outside of the rear hatch. You will need to add some sealant to the hole before reinstalling the rivets (or screws) to prevent water from seeping into the van.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:18 pm    Post subject: Aargh. The snaps have to be drilled out? Reply with quote

As I feared, you gotta break stuff to fix other stuff. The rear washer worked when I tried it today Exclamation so maybe this isn't a big deal. I can hear the pump but no spray most of the time. I wanted to get at it to see if it was lined with 28 years of scum like the front one was. The nastiest sludge ever to roll down my arm…and a good way to kill a pump.

Had a lot of things electrical not working at first as the PO had made a hash of installing the auxiliary battery. Lots of stuff was being starved of voltage (mostly accessories like the radio, lighter/phone charger). But I don't think this is my problem.

Edit: turns out the breaking that needed doing was the panels when the plastic snap rivets held broke out of the wood/plastic material before it came out of the metal. They don't age well, sadly… Might be fabricating some replacement panels out of something more durable.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm retrofitting a rear washer into my 1983 Vanagon. I can not find the route for the wiring and tube to the washer bottle after it enters the vehicle through the rubber grommet in the rear. It looks like it should descend the cavity that is just behind the rear side glass and in front of the engine vents, but I cannot find any access on mine. I did have to drill the hole for the grommet on the inside (not the hatch). Could I be missing some holes because there was no rear washer from the factory?
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