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Tobias Duncan
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| well, I put two hose clamp on dry and they seem to be holding. I am going to drive to Yakima and limp a long and try to get out of the rain. I have been on the road for an hour or so already. thanks for all the advice and offers of assistance. I will decide what to do once I have set up camp for the night. |
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61Scout
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purplepeopleeater
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| I am in kennewick if you need help! |
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Jake de Villiers
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| Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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If you read GoWesty's article, they found that drilling a hole in the plastic pipe caused cracking and thus eventual expensive replacement of the pipes.
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Maybe its because I've done a ton of fabrication work with acrylics and other plastics but I didn't have any trouble with mine. I drilled slowly and made sure there the hole was bigger than the rivet so there was some expansion room.
Or maybe its because I'm not selling replacement parts? 
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camerahunter
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Drilling plastic is fine but it's a good idea to chamfer (sp) the edges to resist splitting. I made eyeglasses for 15 years and drilled plastic, polycarbonate, and glass lenses. I had a tool to smooth out the edges of the holes. This is a requirement for eyeglasses as it's a safety concern. If it were my van I would glue it together. I would not drill and rivet.
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randywebb
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maybe heat up a nail or similar and melt a hole?
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Jake de Villiers
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| maybe heat up a nail or similar and melt a hole? |
I suppose you could but the hole needs to go through the plastic tubing and the insert, too.
32,000 miles and holding...
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John Sullivan
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| dj keev is right. The Go Westy fix is the fastest and most reliable correction to this problem. I used this fix 6 years ago, modified it 3 years later to support Bostig install and it has been working with out issue the whole time. You dont even have to glue, just bang the fitting back in and add the brass mate to the hose to hold. Uses 2 clamps essentially pushing the fittings against each other. |
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Christopher Schimke
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| Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| dj keev is right. The Go Westy fix is the fastest and most reliable correction to this problem. I used this fix 6 years ago, modified it 3 years later to support Bostig install and it has been working with out issue the whole time. You dont even have to glue, just bang the fitting back in and add the brass mate to the hose to hold. Uses 2 clamps essentially pushing the fittings against each other. |
This thread is probably a good read for anyone in this position.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=396588&highlight=rivet
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72wagun
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It looks like there is quite a bit of controversy about how the GoWesty repair kit works. When I first took a look at the pictures in their article, I was a bit baffled about how it would do anything, but the article makes it pretty clear. It's a pretty clever approach. You can tell from reading it that the designer is an engineer.
The key is the coefficient of friction between the rubber and plastic that is sufficient to resist the force created by the pipe pressure (in spite of not having the barb). The metal insert's only purpose is to prevent crushing. The second clamp holds it in place so it can do it's job.
I kind of wish I would have gone this route instead of putting in the metal pipes. When I tried to break my plastic pipes in half to put them in the dumpster, they seemed pretty much indestructible. Now with 2 piece metal pipes, I have 4 more hose clamps to possibly leak.
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