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demon1018 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2009 Posts: 930 Location: crystal river, fl
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: Hatch seal |
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i just replaced the hatch seal in my 64 bus . im getting exhaust fumes in and figured the fact that there was no seal didnt help. where the button is the seal doesnt really seam right . do i have to trim it a little or is that the way it is?
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Stanagon Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2003 Posts: 4186 Location: Boston, MA
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slow36hp scott wimberley
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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demon1018 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2009 Posts: 930 Location: crystal river, fl
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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slow36hp wrote: |
could be exhaust getting sucked into the fan from leaks in the tin and apron |
but that wouldnt bring the smell inside... would it? |
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fluxcap Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2006 Posts: 1969 Location: Newnan GA
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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So are you saying that the new seal did help with the fumes, but you are worried about the excess showing, or did the new seal not help with the fumes?
When I bought the seal for my 66, there was a $100 version and a $50 version. I bought the cheaper version of the rear hatch seal (cause I'm cheap), and it fit like your picture is showing. It did keep the fumes out though. But it leaked pretty bad in mild rain or when washing the bus. We went camping a few weeks ago, and were in bad storm and it leaked like crazy, so I got fed up and decided to buy the $100 molded version. It fits correctly around the button/finger recess, but I haven't been back out in the rain, so don't know if that problem is solved yet . _________________ Eric - 1966 camper bus
"It's like, how much more black could this be, and the answer is none.......none more black." |
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slow36hp scott wimberley
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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demon1018 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2009 Posts: 930 Location: crystal river, fl
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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i havent drove it yet. ill find out in the morning on the way to work. seems like its sealing it up great its just that part by the button that looked odd. anybody have a pic of what it should look like?
i dont have heat and the shoud is blocked so the fumes aint comin in that way |
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campingbox Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2000 Posts: 10192 Location: Petaluma, CA
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Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think you have that seal installed correctly.
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fluxcap Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2006 Posts: 1969 Location: Newnan GA
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:55 am Post subject: |
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If it's the $50 seal, it is installed correctly, that's exactly how mine looked. It's just not pre-molded for the finger recess area, and it doesn't fit in the channel all that well, so the sealing flap kinda hangs down. Every time I opened the hatch, that flap would be in my way, and I'd accidentally pull the seal out every now and then.
Here's a pic of the molded seal. I pulled it out of the channel so you can see how it's shaped to fit.
_________________ Eric - 1966 camper bus
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Big Bill Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2005 Posts: 1782 Location: Santa Rosa, Ca
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:59 am Post subject: |
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slow36hp wrote: |
demon1018 wrote: |
slow36hp wrote: |
could be exhaust getting sucked into the fan from leaks in the tin and apron |
but that wouldnt bring the smell inside... would it? |
yes it can. exhaust enters the fresh air of the engine compartment and then is blown into the duct system feeding the passenger compartment |
I have this happen once in awhile, and my seals are new and tin work is all in place. I will have to check a little closer to find the problem. Thanks |
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RPGreg2600 Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2010 Posts: 1657 Location: Vallejo, CA
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:46 am Post subject: |
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fluxcap wrote: |
So are you saying that the new seal did help with the fumes, but you are worried about the excess showing, or did the new seal not help with the fumes?
When I bought the seal for my 66, there was a $100 version and a $50 version. I bought the cheaper version of the rear hatch seal (cause I'm cheap), and it fit like your picture is showing. It did keep the fumes out though. But it leaked pretty bad in mild rain or when washing the bus. We went camping a few weeks ago, and were in bad storm and it leaked like crazy, so I got fed up and decided to buy the $100 molded version. It fits correctly around the button/finger recess, but I haven't been back out in the rain, so don't know if that problem is solved yet . |
Weird, I never had water come through my hatch even with no seal installed! |
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fluxcap Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2006 Posts: 1969 Location: Newnan GA
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:54 am Post subject: |
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RPGreg2600 wrote: |
fluxcap wrote: |
So are you saying that the new seal did help with the fumes, but you are worried about the excess showing, or did the new seal not help with the fumes?
When I bought the seal for my 66, there was a $100 version and a $50 version. I bought the cheaper version of the rear hatch seal (cause I'm cheap), and it fit like your picture is showing. It did keep the fumes out though. But it leaked pretty bad in mild rain or when washing the bus. We went camping a few weeks ago, and were in bad storm and it leaked like crazy, so I got fed up and decided to buy the $100 molded version. It fits correctly around the button/finger recess, but I haven't been back out in the rain, so don't know if that problem is solved yet . |
Weird, I never had water come through my hatch even with no seal installed! |
Wanna trade hatches??? It didn't do it in light rain, but moderate to heavy rain, or when washing the bus, I had to open the hatch afterwards and dry it out. Seemed to be sneaking in from the top corners. Hatch fits nicely and no damage or rot around the hatch opening. _________________ Eric - 1966 camper bus
"It's like, how much more black could this be, and the answer is none.......none more black." |
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demon1018 Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2009 Posts: 930 Location: crystal river, fl
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Well , maby i can trim it to make it fit a little nicer around the handle. Good news is no more exhaust fumes! |
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2002 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Hatch seal |
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I purchased a seal by West Coast Metric for 64 to 71. It didn't fit at the latch so I trimmed the back some. No big deal but not the best.
problem is we had heavy rain last night and it leaked at the top center. I noticed it leaked there when washing. Seems like the rubber is not quite thick enough. Hatch is adjusted correctly and seal channel was undamaged. Seal looks good but barely touches the hatch and is loose in the channel.
Anyone have any quick fixes for this? Also what is the current good seal out there?
I may try some foam tape behind the seal along the top to give it some more pressure.
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My camper interior build
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Hatch seal |
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For what it's worth- my WW hatch seals are good. Expensive, but worth it.
I think we would all benefit from a comprehensive database (ok thread) that shares the "buy this here, that there" between the two heavies: Wolfsburg West and WCM.
Example:
Hatch seal: WW- good fit WCM: a little loose in channel
Front door and Cargo door seals: WCM- all 3 factory profiles for front door parts WW- only one profile for all doors regardless of specific strips and numbers needed.
Etc... _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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