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1967250s Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2007 Posts: 2137
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:20 am Post subject: Front Bumper Mod? |
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Hi Everyone. I keep reading how the '73 and later front Bumper is superior to the early Bays' bumper, and I was wondering if anyone has retrofit a later ( not sure what to call it) under/body bumper - not the bumper itself- but the stamped lower front section that adds the strength, to an early Bay? I'd imagine the inner and middle lower sections also need to be changed? Then, can the early bumper fit over the later under-bumper, just for the looks? Maybe trim down the body bumper so the early front bumper will fit over it?
Thanks for any ideas. |
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mikedjames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 2743 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Over our side of the pond all you can get is Brazilian extremely late bay deformation panels.These have vertically paired bolts to fix the fender and have a curved profile more like early.
I was just discussing this on Saturday with the vw guy I take my bus to. You have to weld in a flat panel to fix a horizontal pair of nut inserts on each side of the bus for the late bay fender. I will need this doing soon the panel on mine is more holes and piles of rust inside bondo..
We were standing with my 1974 bay next to a 2010 brazilian water cooled so it was clear the difference. |
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Mr. Unpopular Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2005 Posts: 3715 Location: Tampa Florida
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it's the front bumper that's so superior, rather the whole redesigned nose of the late bay that makes it stronger. The frame is different, there are diagonal braces going from the frame out to the body, the crumple zone behind the late bumper, etc. _________________ "In any racing engine, the nearer you are to it disintegrating, the better it's performance will be"
-Keith Duckworth, creator of the Ford/Cosworth DFV |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51152 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Unpopular wrote: |
I don't think it's the front bumper that's so superior, rather the whole redesigned nose of the late bay that makes it stronger. The frame is different, there are diagonal braces going from the frame out to the body, the crumple zone behind the late bumper, etc. |
Same frame with the diagonals from 1970, some slots were added to the diagonals in 72 to make them crumple and the extra inner bumper was added in 73. The inner bumper is the main difference, that thing is thick and heavy. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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1967250s Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2007 Posts: 2137
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Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so it's called the inner bumper? My 72 has the diagonal braces, but the whole lower nose needs replacing, so I thought of using an inner bumper off a later year to add some strength up front, thoughI'd really like to use the OG bumper. Come to think of it, doesn't the later bumper bolt directly to the inner? |
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