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Changed Westfalia canvas tent in 5.5 hours (with photos)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: my Bus Depot canvas adventure Reply with quote

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I bought the Bus Depot Tan Poptop Tent Canvas - 85-91 Westfalia 253070704AOE for $399.

About an hour before I started I found this thread and it made me very worried. But the canvas was here and a couple of my friends were due to arrive with-in the hour. What the hell, right?

Tore out the old canvas with out removing the top, it went very quickly. Installed canvas top to top. Used an awl to poke consistent holes and to make sure everything was lined up correctly. Made the screws a joy to install, well until it was all done, the it hurt a bit, because I used no power tools. Installed the top back on the Vanagon and installed the bottom of the canvas to the body. It all went on very easy. Just used a broom handle to keep the top up and canvas slack.

When it was together I put it up slowly and Ta-Da. She fit like a charm. No rips, nice and taunt. Looks great and now I'm a happy camper.

Dwaine in Dayton aka Denton

The references in the beginning of this thread (which are a couple of years old) related to the Just Kampers canvas that we used to sell, not the canvas we sell now. The JK canvas was a good product for the price, but they did have isolated quality control issues with dimensions. This past summer we introduced our own product to replace it. This product was almost two years in design and I rejected a dozen samples until I thought it was just right. The material is so similar to the OEM German one that side by side you can't even tell the difference. However the side windows are slightly larger on our version, by popular demand. Learning from Just Kampers' experience, I hired an independent canvas specialist to measure and serialize each individual canvas, one by one, ensuring that they do not leave our building unless we're 100% certain the fit is right. For just $279, I can definitively state that this is by far the highest quality canvas ever offered in its price range and will give $500 canvases a run for their money. (Not to mention the only canvas anywhere with 100% independent quality control.) And I say this having carried and used almost every one on the market.

For those who prefer to stick with the OE German product, we still have that too. Our $399 OEM canvas the same one GoWesty sells for $499.

You can read my article on choosing the right poptop canvas at http://www.busdepot.com/details/canvas/.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone modified the '85 and earlier staples version to change it to the strip and screws version? Saw a thread on here awhile ago where someone did that but can't find it.

Wondering if its worth it, and how to go about it if anyone has that experience...seems like the screws would be way easier and faster...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: '93 Eurovan Westy Canvas Replacement Reply with quote

Have done Vanagon Westy tent replacements that have the staple strips. This Eurovan had caulk between bottom strips and body...don't know if that was a factory job or from prior replacement...feedback please...I do plan to just add some chaulk and put it back down.

The reason for just re-chaulking is that the bottom strips have a slot for the canvas welp with rubber cord strip to hold into place...didn't realize and cut this strip...still useable, but looking for new replacement...not finding @ GoWesty or BusDepot. Anyone know of this...suggestions...feedback?

The top strips are also installed differently. The "channel" was installed facing the top shell...reverse of past experience on Vanagons. The welp at the top was tucked into the channel from the outside, with the strip positioned on the inside of the canvas...the screws barely caught the edge of the welp. Is this normal?

I have search this site, Westfalia.org., googled, etc. - not finding any videos or info on replacing this canvas.

Thank You - Bob
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: '93 Eurovan Westy Canvas Replacement Reply with quote

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The top strips are also installed differently. The "channel" was installed facing the top shell...reverse of past experience on Vanagons. The welp at the top was tucked into the channel from the outside, with the strip positioned on the inside of the canvas...the screws barely caught the edge of the welp. Is this normal?

I have search this site, Westfalia.org., googled, etc. - not finding any videos or info on replacing this canvas.

Thank You - Bob



Bob,

The Eurovan might be different, but for the newer Vanagon pop-top canvas that has screws top and bottom, here is how Professional Installer Kris Knight installs the OEM 3 window canvas:

At the top, the 'U' shape of the aluminum strip faces UP. The canvas goes from the INSIDE toward the outside but stays trapped UNDER the aluminum channel but the bead goes just past the screw holes..

The bottom bead with the plastic strip goes completely under the flat side of the aluminum strip. The 'U' shape points UP again but the canvas goes under it completely from the outside to inside of the Van. The plastic bead should show on the inside tight against the aluminum strip. It makes a fairly good water seal.

Attach the canvas front and back at the top first before running the sides. Same for the bottom. Center screw first then stretch enough to reach the corners and secure. Again, do front and back before securing the sides.

If the top bead at the top aluminum strip is pushed to the outside of that strip, the canvas will be very tight and can cause problems opening the top plus puts extra strain on the side window zippers. It may look good, but it might be TOO tight.

Do any of these steps incorrectly and there will be a problem showing up as you reach the end.

I've posted a new Pop-Top install video with Pro upholstery installer Kris Knight doing the install at the camp site with just hand tools, no help with the top from anyone and with the top still on the Van for a total time of 2 hours 25 minutes.. It's a 2 part video. First part is up on Vimeo but I'm waiting for some Staple top information to add to the second part before I post.. Go here for Part #1


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the link to the second part of Curt's tent install video.

https://vimeo.com/110653545

I am getting ready to install my new canvas so watching this - especially Keith who appears to have done this a number of times - is extremely helpful!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Changed Westfalia canvas tent in 5.5 hours (with photos) Reply with quote

The 6 pop-top hinge bolts on my 1985 have sticky white stuff on the threads. Maybe to keep water out so they won't corrode? Amazing that it's still pliable after 35 years. What is this stuff and can I still buy it?
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