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PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beetsport.......

Is it possible for you to post the Vintage Air part numbers?

Evaporator
Condenser
Rec/dryer

Plus, if you made your own hoses........
What hoses you used
Sizes and length
Fittings

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a few pictures of our latest version of Vintage Air front AC system. You can see the Stereo is in stock location but set out about an inch.
Syncro version. Center console modified to hold the Vintage Air controls and the rear AC system controls are placed directly above the Vintage Air controls.

My goal is to have everything still functioning like the Ash tray (coin holder) Stereo, Rear AC and Front AC. Center console helps complete it all.

Note: Holes already there above the satellite receiver... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Beetsport.......

Is it possible for you to post the Vintage Air part numbers?

Evaporator
Condenser
Rec/dryer

Plus, if you made your own hoses........
What hoses you used
Sizes and length
Fittings

Thanks!
Dave


I'll get some part number together and post soon.

Thanks !
Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

did you notice any difference in interior noise by blocking off the fresh air vent?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this dash mod on a build thread? If it is could you post the link, very similar to the current project im working on. Thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beetsport wrote:
djkeev wrote:
Beetsport.......

Is it possible for you to post the Vintage Air part numbers?

Evaporator
Condenser
Rec/dryer

Plus, if you made your own hoses........
What hoses you used
Sizes and length
Fittings

Thanks!
Dave


x2 on getting this list. ...It would be great if someone could put up a How-to on this project. It's a big undertaking no doubt, but it wouldn't be nearly as daunting if someone would lay out the materials, tools, and procedure for doing it! Wink
I'll get some part number together and post soon.

Thanks !
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Beetsport.......

Is it possible for you to post the Vintage Air part numbers?

Evaporator
Condenser
Rec/dryer

Plus, if you made your own hoses........
What hoses you used
Sizes and length
Fittings

Thanks!
Dave


Here are part numbers for the unit that we installed.

Main components.
Gen IV Magnum Evap Kit // 671400-VUZ
3 Lever Panel Gen IV Polished // 491230
11 3/8 1/2 louver w/2 HA // 63016-VUL

Other items needed.
#8 AC Hose (18 feet) // 31855 VUD
#10 AC Hose (18 feet) // 31856-VUD
#6 AC Hose (4 feet) // 31854-VUD
Drier W/Trinary Switch // 07323-VUC
Parallel Flow Condenser 14X20 // 03261-VUC
2" Duct Hose (3 feet) // 06200-VUC
3.875 X 2" For 2.5" Hose // 49327-VUL (Black Vents x 2 )

Hose connectors:
#6 90 FM Oring Beadlock x3
#10 STR FM Beadlock Oring x1
#8 90 FM Oring Beadlock x1
#6 STR FM Beadlock Oring X1

All of the above parts were used to install this Vintage Air Generation Magnum IV into a Vanagon Westy with Rear AC. We used the original AC condenser for both units. Both front and rear AC blow cold. AC compressor is factory stock for our 1.8T engine conversion and seems to handle the extra front unit just fine.
Not sure how well the Boxer engine compressor works pushing 2 units or others out there... Shocked

Some more hose fittings may have been used during the process.

Of course Many Many hours of labor goes along with these parts. Laughing
I can't tell you how many times the dash went and came back out.

There are also fabrication parts needed to build a custom mounting assembly to secure the unit into the dash and to block off the fresh air intake.

Some assembly required.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course Many Many hours of labor goes along with these parts.
I can't tell you how many times the dash went and came back out.


True. While sound proofing and insulating the sheetmetal and firewall, I felt some rust under the windshield seat. I decided to treat the rust while is was small and it was all apart. I removed the windshield to treat the few rust areas. That really made it much easier to complete the dash air install. I would also recommend masking tape on the painted areas of the A pillars where the dash fits. It will keep you from scratching the paint.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beetsport wrote:
Here are a few pictures of our latest version of Vintage Air front AC system. You can see the Stereo is in stock location but set out about an inch.

Center console helps complete it all.


Did you make the console? It looks like just what I'm looking for? Any hints?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uther wrote:
Beetsport wrote:
Here are a few pictures of our latest version of Vintage Air front AC system. You can see the Stereo is in stock location but set out about an inch.

Center console helps complete it all.


Did you make the console? It looks like just what I'm looking for? Any hints?


Here is some information about the center consoles.
http://www.h2ovanagon.com/Accessories.aspx
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Vintage Air latest digital Gen IV installed Reply with quote

How do you deal with installing the Gen IV without having to severely alter the dashboard?

I have a westfalia 84 that had a behr system but the evaporator core box was stolen.

If anyone has a Behr System please let me know.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Vintage Air latest digital Gen IV installed Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: Vintage Air latest digital Gen IV installed Reply with quote

Some pictures and a few more to follow of my recent VA install. My goal was to start with a clean slate as I had a dash shaved and blanked so that I could use all of the same dash grills and not have some unsightly plate with screws showing. I also added 8 fuses to the end of the dash for my accessories one bank is switched and one is constant hot.
I used a VA unit which while it looks the same as a small car unit there are quite a few differences which I found out the hard way.
1 - The S/C has 2 of the servos underneath and do not interfere with the Defrost vent on the left side.
2 - The drain nipple goes the opposite way and had to be cut off and re glued. From VA it flows forward and it need to go to the rear.
3 - The VA does not have attachments for hoses, just ducts which go straight down and would hit the crash bar. I had to add ducts and close off the factory vents.
I wired mine directly to the battery and have my circuit breaker near the battery and my unfused power lead as short as possible.
My ground is bolted through the bulk head and is dedicated to the unit only.
My switched wires are hooked to the factory heater blower wires and were removed from the factory connector and properly insulated, as was the illumination wire.
My Trinary wire is hooked to my dedicated Acc fuse block and my pump wire is hooked through a relay at the the pump. I ran the Trinary control to the fan relay up above the fuse block and it cycles the fan on and and off when it needs it. I will monitor come hot weather and see if it need to run full time.
I used the factory VA front plate and turned it upside down and Re broke it to allow it to bolt to the mounting plate. It is removable which makes installing it easier and gives you adjustment.
I fabbed and installed a support at the output side to keep the evaporator firm in the dash.
I am using a Mechless radio which just fits and is tight up against the hoses.
I used thin ABS bolted and bent in different locations to keep the wiper mechanism from hitting the hoses.
The glove box had to be cut because the unit is shifted to clear the servos.
The toughest part of this install was the Drivers side defrost vent and the over 20 times I had the dash in and out for trimming. There are 2 ribs above the glove box the need to be cut almost all the way out and clearancing in numerous locations.
I opted for the black anodized slide control which is back illuminated and has the same style of the dash vents which all match.
Running the hoses and mounting the condenser from GW and the Receiver dryer and hook up to my Subaru was painless as I had a local fab shop do that for me.
I am happy with the look of the finished install, it seems to blow cold but as other have mentioned the heat is marginal. I have and will add a Pump which is said to greatly increase the heat.
Over all this project took 3 weekends and some prep time and a few nights after work. I also cleaned up some old wiring and replaced a boatload of ground connectors which were dirty and corroded.
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