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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does anyone know a cheaper source for GL4 oil in Canada other VW?


Walmart here sells it, maybe yours does too?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
...By hex socket I think he means a hex shaft that is housed in a socket so you can put it on a ratchet or better yet a breaker bar...


Perhaps a photo to illustrate one such tool...

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That bad boy will loosen them every time.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhaavers wrote:
I had no luck when I tried the 10mm bolt trick. My plug was quite plugged.

I took my (cheap: Harbor Freight) 17mm hex bit socket & pounded it out of the socket fitting.
That by itself was short enough to clear the drain plug, and worked easily with a 17mm wrench on the bit.

Try it - you'll like it. Cheap, too...

http://www.harborfreight.com/9-piece-38-and-12-drive-metric-hex-bit-socket-set-67880-html.html


You got me onto something dhaavers, we don't have Harbour Freight in Canada but I found out online that the Canadian equivalent is called Princess Auto. There is one in town and I have been driving in front of it for 2 years thinking it was a second hand car dealer, lol at me, its the biggest freakin tool store in town! I found precisely what I was looking for, a set of large metric hex key that fits on a 1/2" ratchet. Cool. But no gl4 magic tranny fluid. VW dealer is out of stock, going to check out Walmart tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahwahnee wrote:
dobryan wrote:
...By hex socket I think he means a hex shaft that is housed in a socket so you can put it on a ratchet or better yet a breaker bar...


Perhaps a photo to illustrate one such tool...

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That bad boy will loosen them every time.


I have one of these and its perfect for the transaxle plugs.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are patient you can get one of these pretty cheap on eBay. I think I paid around $12 including shipping.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?search=tru...p;tool=all
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've found an extra FI fitting from my old VW GTI CIS-E fuel filter which happens to be 17 mm hex and fits right into the VW plug. You can then turn it in tight clearance with 17 mm open end wrench. Cost=$0.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made some progress today.
First the bad news; my newly acquired 17mm hex allen key once installed on the ratchet was too long to access both fill and drain plugs, so I hammered the allen bit out of the socket like sugested earlier and used it with a 17mm simple wrench.
More bad news, the 17mm allen key does not fit in either of the plugs even after I cleaned them out thouroughly with a toothbrush until shinny.
Back to the store to look for a 16mm but they dont have it. The next smallest size available in town was a SAE 5/8 hex allen key so I got one. Had to hammer that one out of the socket too and used it with a 14mm wrench like on the picture below.
Some good news, the 5/8 key fit quite nicely and I managed to open first the fill plug then the drain plug.
More bad news, there was some metal flakes on the magnetic shaft of the drain plug and some yellow flakes in the the old oil. The oil did not look too bad but given the amount of gunk on the inside of the drain plug I guess that transaxle has not been serviced in a while, anyways I never did it and I own the van since 2009.
Some more bad news, the first couple of threads on both plugs have been hammered flat (see picture) and I am not sure why. They never leaked but I am thinking that cant be a good idea?!? I will order new ones shortly.
So because I am planning to swap the old plugs for new ones soon, I decided to put cheap motomaster gear oil 80/90 GL4GL5 in it and save my precious Penzoil synthetic 75/90 GL4 (16$/l) for later.
Took a while for the oil to go in, I used a long hose attached to a funnel and gravity fed the whole lot, from the side of the van, flush to the fill plug.
OMG shifting improved SO MUCH! Everything feels so much softer and easy! Quieter too!
Thanks Samba for the help and tips!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

metal flakes on the magnetic shaft of the drain plug are common and no big deal - wipe them off

big bits would be an issue...

sounds like you either had the wrong oil in there, or it was in there way too long

how long was it in there?

I would replace that plug
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

randywebb wrote:
metal flakes on the magnetic shaft of the drain plug are common and no big deal - wipe them off

big bits would be an issue...

sounds like you either had the wrong oil in there, or it was in there way too long

how long was it in there?

I would replace that plug


No metal bits, just super fine flakes. I cant say how long its been in there but I never changed the tranny oil in the 4 years and 20k miles I owned the van, I have no idea of the history prior to my owneship. I will absolutely replace those plugs.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex Proulx wrote:
The next smallest size available in town was a SAE 5/8 hex allen key so I got one. Had to hammer that one out of the socket too and used it with a 14mm wrench like on the picture below.
Some good news, the 5/8 key fit quite nicely and I managed to open first the fill plug then the drain plug.


Sounds like your drain and fill plugs are no longer stock as is. Go forward with care on this as the threads in the case may already have been damage by the use of a non standard plug.

There is almost always some fuzz on the magnetic plug, this is perfectly normal.
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