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70coupyel Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 1657 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:07 am Post subject: |
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shizzon wrote: |
I got a pair of the 1156 LEDs off ebay, here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261138001318
Ordered on 1/3, and they arrived today, 1/18 -- not shabby coming all the way from China!
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I just put mine in tonight.
Theses things rock! Wider beam,more light and higher color temperature.
Thanks shizzon _________________
TheAndante wrote: |
Saying that specs are different than dimensions doesn't make sense. Porsche specs/VW specs/engineering specs are nothing but a series of dimensions,sizes,percentages,measurements, etc. |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=338946&highlight=
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geo_tonz Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2012 Posts: 1472 Location: Courtenay, BC, CANADA
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Finally put the cheapy LEDs in too. Amazing difference! No need for an auxilary light back there now! And a solid 2 minutes of work to install! _________________ ---------------------------------------------------
"Ron Burgundy": 1991 Vanagon Multivan (Weekender) 2.1L Auto - Driver/Camper |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:55 am Post subject: |
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^^^ x2
Night and day difference...LITERALLY... _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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geo_tonz wrote: |
Finally put the cheapy LEDs in too. Amazing difference! No need for an auxilary light back there now! And a solid 2 minutes of work to install! |
Yeah - they are surprisingly effective, aren't they? I love mine... _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
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kirsplat Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2008 Posts: 412 Location: Seattle
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geo_tonz Samba Member
Joined: August 01, 2012 Posts: 1472 Location: Courtenay, BC, CANADA
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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They look interesting... Think they'd work at all as aux drive / fog lights? _________________ ---------------------------------------------------
"Ron Burgundy": 1991 Vanagon Multivan (Weekender) 2.1L Auto - Driver/Camper |
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JED THE SPREAD Samba Member
Joined: July 14, 2009 Posts: 626 Location: South London UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think we might have gone one better than the ones from China in the ebay link.
I finally fitted these ones we do and they work really well, http://campervanculture.com/shop/reverse-bulb-upgrade-20w-cree-led/
My mate Alan has had them on for ages and it has made a massive difference and ours are even brighter than the ones in the other link at 20w rather than 7w and 20 cre rather than 5 with 550lm rather than 500lm as far as I can work out. A great add on when ordering other stuff and because they are LED lights they don't get hot.
Like has been said already, really easy to fit,
Link
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shizzon Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2006 Posts: 596 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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JED THE SPREAD wrote: |
I think we might have gone one better than the ones from China in the ebay link.
I finally fitted these ones we do and they work really well, http://campervanculture.com/shop/reverse-bulb-upgrade-20w-cree-led/
My mate Alan has had them on for ages and it has made a massive difference and ours are even brighter than the ones in the other link at 20w rather than 7w and 20 cre rather than 5 with 550lm rather than 500lm as far as I can work out. A great add on when ordering other stuff and because they are LED lights they don't get hot.
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A little confused by the comparison between the campervanculture LED and the one on ebay (now at this link, http://www.ebay.com/itm/1156-BA15S-CREE-Q5-7-WATT-...036442914?)
It appears as both are 500lm. Is that right? Seems odd since the wattages are different.
Also what does 20 cre vs. 5 mean?
Thanks for the clarification!
Oh yeah, one more thing ... a quick ebay search revealed this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-20W-Cree-Q5-White-Car-...mp;vxp=mtr
It is also 20W, but appears to have LESS lumens than either of the above ones. wtf?!? _________________ 1989 Bostig Syncro Westy |
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shizzon Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2006 Posts: 596 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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just wanted to bump this and prod jed for more info on the lumens output of the campervanculture bulb. From what i can tell, it's not any different than the ebay version... _________________ 1989 Bostig Syncro Westy |
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v-lux Samba Member
Joined: April 09, 2010 Posts: 11 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I think Jed's got some of the info for the bulbs a bit muddled up.
Let me clarify...
Our LED reverse bulbs are 20W Cree LED units.
They have 4x Cree chips in them giving almost 360º output.
The light output statistics we have been quoted for these bulbs is 550 Lumen.
Somebody somewhere would appear to be telling porkie pies about the light output of their bulbs. That said, i can only quote the info we have been supplied.
All i know is the difference from standard bulbs to these is literally like night and day.
I have had them in my van for a good few months now testing them to make sure they are up to scratch and i felt they were well worth it, hence us deciding they were worth supplying to people.
Anyway, I hope that helps to clear up some of the specs on the bulbs.
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shizzon Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2006 Posts: 596 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if it's an issue of directionality...
The ones that I bought off ebay, like this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1156-BA15S-CREE-Q5-7-WATT-...036442914?
are pretty directional (you can see the pics in the ebay link)
From a quick google, it looks like a lumen is the total energy given off, summed over all directions. So the 500 lumen directional bulb should be "brighter" than a 360 bulb within it's narrow cone of light. (although the overall useable light of the 360 beam might be better!)
Like you said though, i wouldn't be surprised if some numbers got fudged somewhere. _________________ 1989 Bostig Syncro Westy |
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syncrodoka Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2005 Posts: 12006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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If you really want to go crazy, search on ebay for "cree 1156" and there are offerings up to 80 watts at 1000lm.
Way more than enough lighting to back up out of a parking spot. |
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nocreditnodebt Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2012 Posts: 332 Location: Socal
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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I have a little experience in the Cree 1156 bulbs, but in a non VW application.
I bought these:
http://www.amazon.com/TOMTOP-BA15S-White-Reverse-1...+white+LED
I knew they would not use the reflector, just fire into the while lens.
The light had a bluish tinge just from heatsink.
While bright, in the daytime, from anb angle, like in a diagonal parking spot, they were not noticeable. It was not obvious to other drivers when I was in reverse.
I wrote one of the 2 reviews for that link so no need to repeat it all here.
I wound up installing 3497 incandescent bulbs which are about 25% brighter than 1156.
I also have some fog lights under the bumper facing backwards, so having all one color of light is beneficial to visibility in a mirror. I was hoping the Cree's would light up things above bumper level, but despite really wanting them to be an improvement, the mirror did not lie, I could not see as well as an incandescent 1156, and the 3497 were an improvement over both.
I tried to retask these bulbs as interior task lights. They start flashing on and off after about 3 minutes on, though I have some other t-20 base LEDs that do not flash as they heat up.
The actual consumption of the bulbs seem to be well less than 50% of what they claim. Not sure if they are claiming them to be that wattage for a pair, or the lumen equivalent of an incandescent bulb.
I've got a Cree flashlight that is impressive. Cree chips can be so intense. getting that light where desired is the issue.
I'd be interested in those units with 4 Crees stuffed into one 1156 bulb. That thing must get so freaking hot. My T-20 base Cree LED gets to 136f and draws .12 amps at 12.6 volts, or about 1.5 watts. |
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shizzon Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2006 Posts: 596 Location: Boulder, CO
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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So as I mentioned earlier in this thread, I bought a pair of 7W bulbs earlier this year, like these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1156-BA15S-CREE-Q5-7-WAT...036442914?
They were a big upgrade in terms of light output, but they were directional. After seeing these "50W" ones (not sure i really believe it) that are more omnidirectional, I decided to give them a try
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310669106402?item=31066910...mp;vxp=mtr
The picture below shows the old LED light on the right, and the new LED light on the left. The original stock lights were much dimmer than either of these, but the 50W ones are absolutely incredible. I think these are very similar to what campervanculture sells.
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alikatcraig Samba Member
Joined: September 09, 2007 Posts: 556 Location: Anaheim, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Go to the sourc for your LED's. I've had no problems with all of my orders, but expect to wait a few weeks.
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=115...1123170443 _________________ 1967 Ghia
1971 Deluxe Microbus
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Royb Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2008 Posts: 228 Location: Sierra Foothills
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Has anyone tried any of the other options suggested at superbrightleds.com? The suggested replacement LEDs are remarkable different. It looks like Gowesty uses the 3x1.3 watt version in the reverse lights. But there's one with 26(!) LEDs! I like the idea of bright LEDs in the stock location- easy replacement and reduced draw. _________________ 1991 Westy |
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