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onemat Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2011 Posts: 418 Location: Ashland City, TN
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, this thread has taken off. Should I change the title to "Air Cooled Vanagon Owners"? jimreg, I enjoyed your pictures. The picture with the bus loaded inside is convincing me I might want to add a roof rack.
Question: How many of you have EGR sensor connected to their exhaust. My '82 came from Ohio and has part of a pipe that was supposed to connect to an EGR sensor on the exhaust, I think before the CAT. I've been told I am supposed to have it, but I'm really not sure.
Matt _________________ '82 Vanagon GL with 2.0 4-speed. Long term plan is to turn it into a camper. |
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jalopyjockey Samba Member
Joined: June 29, 2005 Posts: 357 Location: avl, nc
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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funny you should ask about egr...that is the reason i am putting in the wi/meth....i have been watching chts on several engines and there is definitely heat buildup on cylinder 1 (every engine ive torn down has had seat issues on that cylinder as well)...all these engines have had no egr...if you look inside the plenum the egr mounts to a pipe that routes the gases to cylinders 1 and 3 (sorta)....i got curious one day and tested hypothesis that vw was trying to compensate for cooling of the 1/2 bank...and sure enough the little egr tubes did favor that side, specifically #1....so while the egr may result in a loss of power i think it may be wise to leave it in place to maintain even head temperatures |
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Odd_Dutch Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2011 Posts: 82 Location: The Hague, Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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I had one, until I converted to Subaru. I loved the simplicity and sound of that engine, but after one big roadtrip trough France, Spain and Portugal I couldn't see me doing that again without a major power upgrade.
I love projects so as soon i got home after 3 months on the road the engine got out and replaced it with a nice 2L Subaru.
In the near future I'd like to have a bug for short trips and daily commuting
Big thumps up for all the owners keeping they're a/c running _________________ 1980 2.0L Tintop - Subaru EJ-20 conversion |
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onemat Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2011 Posts: 418 Location: Ashland City, TN
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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funny you should ask about egr...that is the reason i am putting in the wi/meth....i have been watching chts on several engines and there is definitely heat buildup on cylinder 1 (every engine ive torn down has had seat issues on that cylinder as well)...all these engines have had no egr...if you look inside the plenum the egr mounts to a pipe that routes the gases to cylinders 1 and 3 (sorta)....i got curious one day and tested hypothesis that vw was trying to compensate for cooling of the 1/2 bank...and sure enough the little egr tubes did favor that side, specifically #1....so while the egr may result in a loss of power i think it may be wise to leave it in place to maintain even head temperatures |
When I got mine it had the upper EGR pipe that connects to a fitting on the left side of the ingine bay. I have since found the lower one, a nut to go into the exhause and a new EGR valve. I just haven't connected it yet. _________________ '82 Vanagon GL with 2.0 4-speed. Long term plan is to turn it into a camper. |
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jalopyjockey Samba Member
Joined: June 29, 2005 Posts: 357 Location: avl, nc
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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sweet, my suggestion would be to connect it all up but using a collector style exhaust...would require minimal fab work a muffler shop could easily do and would breathe better than the factory crossover crap
wi/meth would be similar to egr in that it would allow higher afrs while also removing heat from the head and reducing the octane requirement (im pushing a cr of 9:1)...hoping to save gas and my heads at the same time...like egr but with something thats not "inert"...plus you get the benefit of cleaner combustion
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WestyJP Samba Member
Joined: December 02, 2010 Posts: 55 Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not running an EGR system and haven't on previous air coolers. I wonder if there isn't something to the cooling effect it might have.
Beautiful exhaust system there RMW. If I go back to a running a cat I'll be giving you a call. My current setup is a set of spacers and a muffler from a bay that simplifies the plumbing a lot. No cat though and the EGR connection is in a different spot but it's worked great for about 80k miles so far. |
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ewalt98 Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2009 Posts: 94 Location: Corvallis, MT
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still running the EGR. Everything is pretty much stock on mine.
It is a fairly simple system, but one must make sure that it is in good shape. Any air leaks will allow atmospheric air into the system, which leans out the AF mixture, which equals a hot running engine.
Also, the valve tends to get carbon build up, which blocks the exhaust gasses from getting into the intake.
Mine was completely blocked when I bought the van, which was a good thing since the pipe connecting to the exhaust was completely broken off, though maybe the O2 sensor would pick that up, and adjust the fuel metering???
Hey RMW, is that a federal only system, or will it work for California systems with the different EGR and 02 sensors? _________________ Eric
82 Westfalia Camper (Currently getting a little bit fixed up)
85 944
72 GT6
88 F350
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Rocky Mountain Westy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2008 Posts: 1031 Location: Fort Collins Colorado
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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ewalt98 wrote: |
Hey RMW, is that a federal only system, or will it work for California systems with the different EGR and 02 sensors? |
I don't think it will work on the California setup because the heater boxes are different. The Cat Conv can be supplied with a o2 sensor bung though.
Thanks, Mike _________________ Rocky Mountain Westy Inc.
www.rockymountainwesty.com
970-310-3441
[email protected]
The Splitzgauer build (when I have time to work on it and update the thread)
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=497133 |
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carterzest Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2008 Posts: 3842 Location: Eagle, ID/Sun Valley, ID
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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add VanWilder and MightyArt to the list. I have owned 3 AC Vanagon Westfalia's and will confirm the lack of heat, though, with the heater boxes properly insulated and all components working correctly, there was usually enough heat present to defrost the front windshield after about 20 minutes on a really cold morning....the inside temp though was a deal breaker for my wife who has really bad circulation. When I would commute in mine in the winter, I would pre-prime the interior by running the stove for a few minutes and sometimes run a small space heater to get the windows clear. Loved the Jazzy fabric on my 2 1980 Westfalia's. That fabric is awesome! _________________ Happiness=Portland, Oregon in the rearview mirror! |
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gchristensen Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2012 Posts: 84 Location: Sacramento Ca.
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject: I have one |
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I have a 1980 that is currently being overhauled. Gutted interior , repaired cabinets, painted cabinets,sound deadner throughout, engine is out and Ray Valleros has it and doing a compete machine job. Cannot wait to get it back and start the reassembly. I have put bamboo floors in, recaimed recaros in the two front spots, getting new foam for the r/r bed. I need to rewire the speedo and clock lights, so trying to source wired sockets for the lights.I have some photos but all still in work. _________________ Joining now is our new 1982 diesel. This is an ongoing project under construction. |
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Matt G Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2007 Posts: 77 Location: Tidewater, VA
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Count me in too.
EGR not hooked up, PO removed it.
With the exhaust back to stock, I've thought about re-installing it.
Many thanks to RMW for reproducing the exhaust - that's nice! _________________ Matt
'90 Vanagon GL
'81 Vanagon
'71 Bus
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Jeff's Old Volks Home Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2011 Posts: 819 Location: Chester Basin, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: I have one |
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GCHRISTENSEN wrote: |
I have a 1980 that is currently being overhauled. Gutted interior , repaired cabinets, painted cabinets,sound deadner throughout, engine is out and Ray Valleros has it and doing a compete machine job. Cannot wait to get it back and start the reassembly. I have put bamboo floors in, recaimed recaros in the two front spots, getting new foam for the r/r bed. I need to rewire the speedo and clock lights, so trying to source wired sockets for the lights.I have some photos but all still in work. |
Not trying to hijack the thread... But do you have any pictures or info about installing your Recarros? What are they from?
Jeff _________________ www.jeffsoldvolkshome.com
2004 Jetta TDi Wagon
2002 Smyth Ute TDi
1990 Vanagon weekender Syncro AAZ
1987 Syncro Doka AAZ...soon to be TDI
2014 DL650ABS Xpedition
1986 Weekender Syncro (Under construction)
1987 Westfalia (Under construction)
1987 Syncro Single cab |
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oldhuldy67 Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2008 Posts: 506 Location: somewhere with a southern exposure
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Yep! I have a 1980 Westy with a rebuilt stock engine..always been an ACVW driver. I think just like the AC soundtrack while I'm driving...
even before the rebuild...
Tac-Tac-Tac-Tac...VRrrrrrrrUUUUUUmmmmmBlubady-Blub-Blub...Tac-Tac-Tac-Tac.
Currently driving:
1980 Westy Westfalia Poptop (a total stock-look rebuild with all my favorite camping mods)
1967 Sunroof Beetle (a Cali-Sleeper...)
And now, a moment of silence, please:
1978 Westy Campmobile (the "EM50 Urban Assault Vehicle" code named "The Pickle" drove me and my US Army family and friends all over Germany for 6 years...sadly, she's gone over the hill and now listed as MIA...) :snipersmile:
1973 Squareback (sold on a lark..)
1973 Super Beetle (crashed..walked away without a scratch)
1972 Standard Beetle (lost in a relationship..)
1966 Beetle (the Black Beauty..my Dad's)
1964 Beetle (the Beige Bug..my beginning beater, also my Dad's
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M_atthewanderson Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2005 Posts: 288 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:19 am Post subject: |
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1980 owner since 2003. Cant believe its been that long.
I've thought about plumbing it and putting in a 1.8t in but part of me thinks I'll regret it. Plus, I want a 914 really bad and like how their engines are similar.
I only drive it in the summer now and was just out in the garage earlier thinking about painting the steels again or getting some 5 spoke BRM replicas. _________________ 1980 2.0 Sunroof Vanagon |
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moogster Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2004 Posts: 29 Location: united kingdom
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Been living with a 1980 2ltr aircooled westy joker since 2006 running on dual fuel (lpg/petrol) its the first modern vw ive owned since driving aircooled vws since 1986 when i passed my driving test.
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ktr-sb Samba Member
Joined: December 30, 2003 Posts: 47 Location: Spring Branch, TX
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Just bought an '81 Westy in San Antone, drove it out the 30 or so miles north to my little hacienda in the Hill Country. Starting grinning about 15 miles out and now it brings a smile to my face whenever I pull into the driveway and see it parked out front. Long, long history of VWs, former VW tech, and looking forward to keeping this one for a long, long time. A little rust around the windows, nothing through-and-through that I can see, but I have no illusions. Not going to be a show car, just a member of the family.
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onemat Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2011 Posts: 418 Location: Ashland City, TN
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Nice! I drove mine from Southern Georgia to just north of Nashville 15 months ago and I was grinning all the way too. _________________ '82 Vanagon GL with 2.0 4-speed. Long term plan is to turn it into a camper. |
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kerrvert Samba Member
Joined: July 19, 2013 Posts: 23 Location: Kerrville, TX
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:17 am Post subject: |
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ktr-sb wrote: |
Just bought an '81 Westy in San Antone |
Hey congrats! She looks just like our Daisy. We had the rust around the windows too. We ended up removing all the windows and replacing all the rubber after fixing the rust.
Also...I'm not running the EGR valve. The one I got was completely buggered so I left it off. _________________ 1983 Westy 2.0 FI
1967 Bug
1964 MGB |
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t'sunamibus Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2012 Posts: 202 Location: Westport, Washington
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Momentai Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2012 Posts: 18 Location: vt, usa
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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81 Westy owner, present and accounted for! She's currently hibernating in the carport until snow and mud season passes-- which means May (maybe) in VT! I've stripped the camper interior and prepped for some body repairs to the typical drivers side rocker rust (behind the fridge/ water tank)... otherwise super dry and solid! _________________ 67 Kombi
67 SO42
71 Westy
88 Syncro Doka
88 Syncro Westy
86 944 Turbo |
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