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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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- Could you point me in the right direction for a gun? I dont think i have the right one I bought one from ebay and on a test today (piece of cardboard) it didn't seem to work at all! seems to splatter out in lumps no steady spray. I tried multiple psi points, no joy. This is the gun I bought:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Astro-Pneumatic-UCG100-Air...1c3ced5bac

- Its very thick! How much do I need to stir up the stuff? or do i need to stir at all?

- What psi is good to shoot with?

- Is cleaning and d-greasing the inside enough? Do I need rough up the smooth paint with sand paper as well or will it just stick to the original paint inside the van?


Thanks in advance

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http://www.quietrock.com/download.php?file=73.pdf

I think I was using 90-100 psi. That gun should be fine, it doesn't go on like paint, but sort of splatter finish. Good idea to stir.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be best to contact manufacture ..

http://www.atsacoustics.com/quietcoat.html
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just posted the link to the manufacturer's info! Exclamation

Atsacoustics is not the manufacturer
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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almo wrote:


- Could you point me in the right direction for a gun? I dont think i have the right one I bought one from ebay and on a test today (piece of cardboard) it didn't seem to work at all! seems to splatter out in lumps no steady spray. I tried multiple psi points, no joy. This is the gun I bought:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Astro-Pneumatic-UCG100-Air...1c3ced5bac

- Its very thick! How much do I need to stir up the stuff? or do i need to stir at all?

- What psi is good to shoot with?

- Is cleaning and d-greasing the inside enough? Do I need rough up the smooth paint with sand paper as well or will it just stick to the original paint inside the van?


Thanks in advance

Cheers


http://www.quietrock.com/download.php?file=73.pdf

I think I was using 90-100 psi. That gun should be fine, it doesn't go on like paint, but sort of splatter finish. Good idea to stir.



Nice one thanks for the link. Its saying in there to sand.... rough up smooth or glossy surfaces Surprised awe man more work lol never ends Rolling Eyes Some day my van will see the road..... some day Laughing
Did u rough up the paint?


Ill give the gun another shot.. but I'm not sure? it was just like lumps splattering off the tip not even going in the right direction i.e. flying all around not hitting the cardboard right at all, bits flying up in my face lol.

Anyways Ill play a little more with it if I cant make it work Ill get another.

Thank for the advice


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:00 pm    Post subject: Spraying Reply with quote

Does this look right it's coming out very rough texture

http://youtu.be/TF3xJYaczmA
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like very low volume of material coming out - orifice too small, pressure too low? It should spray in a wider pattern too. Are you holding the gun upright? It appears sideways in the video.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:38 am    Post subject: Noxudol drying between coats? Reply with quote

I bought some Noxudol for the floor of my van. I was curious of a few things.

I'm using a roller to apply since I don't have a spray gun.

How long should I wait between coats? Should I wait the whole 6-8hrs between coats?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Spraying Reply with quote

almo wrote:
Does this look right it's coming out very rough texture

http://youtu.be/TF3xJYaczmA


I got a fair bit of texture when I sprayed, but I was also spraying about 100 times more than that.

Here is what it looked like when I sprayed it with the gun quiet car sold with the stuff, it maybe took 15 mins to spray the whole inside. You can mix it with water to thin it out and see if it sprays better for you.

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Seriously, it took more time to clean out the gun between coat than to spray it all. I waited 4 hours between coats and sprayed maybe 5-6 total.

Your gonna need a bigger gun. A drywall texture gun is almost the right thing to use, but I like the one they sold in the kit.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Spraying Reply with quote

almo wrote:
Does this look right it's coming out very rough texture

http://youtu.be/TF3xJYaczmA


The tool is starving for material.

Most directions I read for liquid sound deadeners say, 80lbs. Max as the product will atomize and dry before contacting the surface, causing adhesion issues down the road.

If your applicator lacks an adjustable tip, I would recommending getting one that doesn't.

1/2" pickup and orifice, adjustable tip and rotatable trigger handle to keep the material plumb while spraying:

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I am currently spraying, throughly mixed with a paddle, sound deadeners at 40lbs and adjusting material flow at the tip.
Full coverage is better splattered, than paint to a matte finish.
Build the material and allow to flash, reapply and allow to dry, cure completely as directed.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinning sound deadeners is not recommended.
Properly mixing them will yeild far better results and will not diminish the deadening qualities.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Noxudol drying between coats? Reply with quote

rotaecho wrote:
I bought some Noxudol for the floor of my van. I was curious of a few things.

I'm using a roller to apply since I don't have a spray gun.

How long should I wait between coats? Should I wait the whole 6-8hrs between coats?

Thanks!


Which Noxudol product?
Most are for underbody protection.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the manf. tell you to use 3 coats?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Noxudol drying between coats? Reply with quote

I got the:

http://www.noxudolusa.com/products/sound-damping-products/

I got two 1gallon 3100

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rotaecho wrote:
I bought some Noxudol for the floor of my van. I was curious of a few things.

I'm using a roller to apply since I don't have a spray gun.

How long should I wait between coats? Should I wait the whole 6-8hrs between coats?

Thanks!


Which Noxudol product?
Most are for underbody protection.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

insyncro wrote:
Thinning sound deadeners is not recommended.
Properly mixing them will yeild far better results and will not diminish the deadening qualities.


At least with quiet car they specifically state that mixing with water is OK for spraying. I cannot say the same about other products, by that does comes from the manufacturer.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:14 pm    Post subject: QuietCar.net appears to be out of business Reply with quote

QuietCar.net appears to be gone. I can't find the products on Amazon or anywhere with google searches. I think the company went out of business.

I see the comment about this product being by the same manufacturer.

http://www.soundcontrolroom.com/shop/quiet-coat-noise-vibration-dampening-coating

Can anyone confirm this?

I noticed in one picture that InSyncro didn't spray the floor of the van. Any reason I shouldn't spray the floor? Is the product not meant to be hardwearing? It will have carpet over it in my case.

If I apply a Fatmat like material over the big panels should it go under the spray or ontop of the spray?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: QuietCar.net appears to be out of business Reply with quote

rmcd wrote:
QuietCar.net appears to be gone. I can't find the products on Amazon or anywhere with google searches. I think the company went out of business.

I see the comment about this product being by the same manufacturer.

http://www.soundcontrolroom.com/shop/quiet-coat-noise-vibration-dampening-coating

Can anyone confirm this?


Same stuff! I sprayed it on the inside of all the panels in my van, floor as well! It did a great job. I Put luxury liner pro on top of that made a huge difference!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

westyventures wrote:
Also, another less expensive product I just turned up:

http://acousticalsolutions.com/31~vbd-10-damping-compound

I think I'll give it a try in the next project.


Just a heads up, I made a bad recommendation for this stuff awhile back. First, it really is a poor product in comparison to the QuietCar / QuietCoat product. One thing they don't tell you is the stuff has a very short shelf life, like less than 6 months. I lost two pails of it because I moved and the stuff sat unused for a couple years - and the boxes had no indication of expiry date, only on the buckets inside. The substance is like crappy concrete in texture, has silica in it, and while it may be an ok product for home walls I would never use it in a camper build.
I did just buy a 5-gal pail of QuietCoat from these folks, reasonable shipping and fast delivery:
https://www.soundcontrolroom.com/shop/quiet-coat-n...e=5-gallon
Unlike some of the sticky-back peel and install products, this won't fall off when the metal gets hot. It also seals any cracked seams from the inside and can be sprayed into areas where hands can't reach. Something to think about.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Sound deadening comparison video: Reply with quote

Longtime lurker first time poster / owner, ready for the pain. Two questions (one has been asked before)... is it really necessary to sand down and prep the interior paint before digging in with the Quietcoat? Also... going to stick with original exterior paint on our van, how bad is the overspray on this stuff? Cleans up with water sounds great but just wondering if I'm going to end up with haze etc and if I should make sure this is done outside to minimize impact on exterior paint or anything that isn't masked off...
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