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vw76westy
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: 73-79 bumper guards standard, deluxe, champagne.... |
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i have been wanting to install bumper guards on my 75auto
after putting together a set, i was getting ready to cut a notch in them for the deluxe rubber trim, using the champagne edtion bumper guards off my 76westy as a templet for cutting the notch
but i just learned that deluxe bumper guards and regular bumper guards
are not the same !!!!
so once i had the champagne bumper gaurds side by side with regular bumper guards i noticed that champagne bumper guards do not
clear the entire depth of bumper
and that regular guards do clear the depth of bumper
the bumper guards are the same overall size but distance that they inset into the bumper is different
the problem is that if i cut a notch in bumper guards to clear the deluxe trim
the trim will be all the way upto the front edge of bumper guard
and so now i have been on the fence for a few months
debating with myself on taking the risk in cutting a notch anyway and hope that it wont look to bad
or hunt down a set of champagne /deluxe guards to put on
lets be realistic here
regular bumper guards are rare and hard to find, if i cut a notch in them and it looks like shit it will be a big $$loss plus the world will lose another set of bumper gaurds
finding a set of deluxe bumper gauards can take years...
(it took 3 years to find them for my 76westy)
not using the deluxe rubber trim is not a option
i have done a lot of searching in threads and in the gallery and it seems like up to now noone has noticed that there is a differance between
73-79 bumper guards
deluxe bumper guards (notch for rubber trim)
and champagne bumper gaurds (chrome +notch)
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ROCKOROD71
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There has been a whole set of champagne bumper guards in the classifieds for months now. I know because I too have been looking for some. they are like 500 beans though and I want to paint the set I find, and the ones in the classifieds are too pretty to do that to. Maybe snag those and sell the ones you've got to diffuse the cost? I know someone who'll buy them! 
Side note: Seriously, why won't anyone re-pop these? They remade the readily available 68-73 Beetle guards, and now they've got repro bay guards for the 68-72, which is basically all you can find used anyhow. Are these part houses sleeping through class? Is there some super hard part to repro-ing the late bay bumper guards that I'm not seeing? Seems pretty basic....
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vw76westy
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| ROCKOROD71 wrote: |
There has been a whole set of champagne bumper guards in the classifieds for months now. I know because I too have been looking for some. they are like 500 beans though and I want to paint the set I find, and the ones in the classifieds are too pretty to do that to. Maybe snag those and sell the ones you've got to diffuse the cost? I know someone who'll buy them!
Side note: Seriously, why won't anyone re-pop these? They remade the readily available 68-73 Beetle guards, and now they've got repro bay guards for the 68-72, which is basically all you can find used anyhow. Are these part houses sleeping through class? Is there some super hard part to repro-ing the late bay bumper guards that I'm not seeing? Seems pretty basic.... |
these will never be repoduced
bug bumper gaurds and 68-72 bus bumper gaurds
are all the same front,rear, left or right......
1 molding gives you all 4 bumper gaurds
73-79 bus bumper gaurds are all different
front, rear, left and right
so you need to make 4 molds to sell 1 set
then a whole different set of molds for the deluxe rubber trim
making the mold to make the bumper gaurds is where the investment is
having to make 4 molds makes it just not worth investing
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ROCKOROD71
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well that sucks. 
Can't some engineering whiz re-design the wheel and come up with a bumper guard that will fit all 4 corners of the late bay bumper, like the other models mentioned? Just something that's functional and looks close? Where are the original molds? THERE MUST BE A SOLUTION! 
When I get home I'm breakin' out the crayons and graph paper....
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Red Fau Veh
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: 73-79 bumper guards standard, deluxe, champagne.... |
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| vw76westy wrote: |
finding a set of deluxe bumper gauards can take years...
(it took 3 years to find them for my 76westy)
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Took me about 30 seconds, here you go. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1606585
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vw76westy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:26 am Post subject: |
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if I had those they would be in my show case
of rare parts and not on the bus....
but I'll take a set that has no chrome left
and prime for a coat of paint.....
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Red Fau Veh
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:15 am Post subject: |
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| vw76westy wrote: |
if I had those they would be in my show case
of rare parts and not on the bus....
but I'll take a set that has no chrome left
and prime for a coat of paint..... |
Oh, well then you wouldn't want these either, they are new and shiny. 
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1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
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1969 Adventurewagen blue whale Gene Berg 1776 built by Dave Kawell dual 36 DRLA's, Vintage Speed exhaust, Bosch 019 screamer
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