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05gh Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2011 Posts: 157 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:22 pm Post subject: Engine does not fit on transmission |
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I have a 1963 double door panel van. I think the transmission and engine do not belong to this bus. But anyway i will use them but the engine does not fit on the transmission. Wich modification or adaptor do I need. The transmission is the model with the reduction box and the engine is a 1600. See pictures
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76770 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Most likely trying to fit a 200mm flywheel into a 6v tranny.
You need to do some grinding of the tranny case for it to fit.
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mandraks Samba Member
Joined: November 28, 2004 Posts: 7045 Location: Lawrenceville, Ga
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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As always when you are not 100% sure what you are trying to match up, find out.
if you are putting a 12 volt motor with the 200mm fly wheel on a transmission that was last used in a 6 volt car with a 180mm fly wheel, you will need to look at the entire clutch and throwout bearing assembly. Just by a kit that includes all pieces matching.
it is typically very easy (and backyard mechanicy) to just "machine" the tranny with the flywheel during installation. Turn it over with the starter.
make sure you use a 12 volt starter matching your flywheel. This might require some fitment into the actual transmission case, (bushing or no bushing)
Ultimately, it will fit, no doubt _________________ regards
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05gh Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
Most likely trying to fit a 200mm flywheel into a 6v tranny.
You need to do some grinding of the tranny case for it to fit.
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Thanks for sharing the photo's, (the flyweel is 275mm) |
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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05gh wrote: |
(the flyweel is 275mm) |
200/180 refers to the clutch size, not the total diameter of the flywheel. _________________ Glenn
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mandraks Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Glenn wrote: |
05gh wrote: |
(the flyweel is 275mm) |
200/180 refers to the clutch size, not the total diameter of the flywheel. |
good point, should have worded this better somehow....
maybe a 12volt flywheel for a 200mm clutch? tranny from a 6volt car with 6 volt flywheel? _________________ regards
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05gh Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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starter 6 or 12V ? and how do I measure the flywheel diameter?
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: Engine does not fit on transmission |
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05gh wrote: |
the engine is a 1600. |
You have a 200mm flywheel. _________________ Glenn
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24677 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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That starter cover was used on both 6 and 12 volt self supporting starters..
Count how many teeth on the flywheel. You could have a 12 volt or 6 volt geared flywheel. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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05gh Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
That starter cover was used on both 6 and 12 volt self supporting starters..
Count how many teeth on the flywheel. You could have a 12 volt or 6 volt geared flywheel. |
flywheel has 132 teeth and the starter 9 |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14221 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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05gh wrote: |
Eric&Barb wrote: |
That starter cover was used on both 6 and 12 volt self supporting starters..
Count how many teeth on the flywheel. You could have a 12 volt or 6 volt geared flywheel. |
flywheel has 132 teeth and the starter 9 |
12.06 volt for you unless you have 130 teeth then it's 12 volt.
Starter is 12 volt. |
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