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mynameismud
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 Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:02 am Post subject: Sliding window latch plate? |
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I have 2 different styles (it looks) of latch plates for my cab slider windows. (these)
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211837813A
The drivers side has is just the flat steel, with simple notches where there latch engages. The passenger side is the same, but the notches are a little more rectangular, and actually bend down (at the front edge). Which is correct for a '56?
(i'll see if I can get some pics posted over the lunch hour)
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:51 am Post subject: Re: sliding window latch plate? |
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| mynameismud wrote: |
I have 2 different styles (it looks) of latch plates for my cab slider windows. (these)
http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211837813A
The drivers side has is just the flat steel, with simple notches where there latch engages. The passenger side is the same, but the notches are a little more rectangular, and actually bend down (at the front edge). Which is correct for a '56?
(i'll see if I can get some pics posted over the lunch hour) |
Sounds like your passenger side one is tweaked. AFAIK all of them are the same from '55-'67. |
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mynameismud
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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you are right greg- it looks like the notches have been cut and pushed down..  now if i can only get my divers side slider to stay closed.
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otis_bartleh
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Digging up an old thread... My drivers side window latch won't quite go forward far enough to catch the forward most hole, so it's not latching.
Any idea what would cause this? Since the window seems to be closing all the way, just not latching, I'm thinking about just lengthening the latch hole a few millimeters towards the rear so the latch will catch it.
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| The verdict here is the same.Age and tweaked. Exact cause could be a broken down seal to sudden caveman strength forcing a slider to open. Results vary. |
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otis_bartleh
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| mr white wrote: |
| The verdict here is the same.Age and tweaked. Exact cause could be a broken down seal to sudden caveman strength forcing a slider to open. Results vary. |
The felt channels have all been replaced with new ones a little over a year ago, and the drivers side has never latched, but the passenger side does. Also, not sure if it matters, the passenger side latch plate is original to the bus, but the drivers side latch plate was pulled from another bus.
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| Yes, glass hitting the front-most seal so it can't slide all the way closed? |
The window and slider track are going into the groove in the front felt seal, as opposed to hitting the front of it. Pretty sure it is sliding all the way closed. Thought the seals may be too thick, but the passenger felt seal was done at the same time and that side latches fine.
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EverettB
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| otis_bartleh wrote: |
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| Yes, glass hitting the front-most seal so it can't slide all the way closed? |
The window and slider track are going into the groove in the front felt seal, as opposed to hitting the front of it. Pretty sure it is sliding all the way closed. Thought the seals may be too thick, but the passenger felt seal was done at the same time and that side latches fine.
Also, didn't think about this when I posted, the passenger side latch plate is stock to the bus, the drivers side one with the issue was pulled from another bus. Not sure if that matters. |
I believe the slots are in different spots for the Sigla sliders so... yep.
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otis_bartleh
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| EverettB wrote: |
| otis_bartleh wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| Yes, glass hitting the front-most seal so it can't slide all the way closed? |
The window and slider track are going into the groove in the front felt seal, as opposed to hitting the front of it. Pretty sure it is sliding all the way closed. Thought the seals may be too thick, but the passenger felt seal was done at the same time and that side latches fine.
Also, didn't think about this when I posted, the passenger side latch plate is stock to the bus, the drivers side one with the issue was pulled from another bus. Not sure if that matters. |
I believe the slots are in different spots for the Sigla sliders so... yep. |
That could explain it then! I honestly can't remember if it was pulled from a sigla or sekurit windowed bus. I'll try and find a sigla latch plate before cutting this one then. Thanks!
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| otis_bartleh wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| otis_bartleh wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| Yes, glass hitting the front-most seal so it can't slide all the way closed? |
The window and slider track are going into the groove in the front felt seal, as opposed to hitting the front of it. Pretty sure it is sliding all the way closed. Thought the seals may be too thick, but the passenger felt seal was done at the same time and that side latches fine.
Also, didn't think about this when I posted, the passenger side latch plate is stock to the bus, the drivers side one with the issue was pulled from another bus. Not sure if that matters. |
I believe the slots are in different spots for the Sigla sliders so... yep. |
That could explain it then! I honestly can't remember if it was pulled from a sigla or sekurit windowed bus. I'll try and find a sigla latch plate before cutting this one then. Thanks! |
Do a left to right tape measurement comparison to check the slot positions...
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otis_bartleh
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| EverettB wrote: |
Do a left to right tape measurement comparison to check the slot positions... |
Duh, good call, should have thought about that...  Will do, should be a quick way to tell...
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| EverettB wrote: |
Do a left to right tape measurement comparison to check the slot positions... |
Duh, good call, should have thought about that... Will do, should be a quick way to tell... |
I should have said... post the measurements too, for reference for others in the future.
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Used a piece of paper and measured the marks on the paper with a caliper, and they're both the about same, 28mm. The passenger side was 28.29mm, but variance could be where I drew the line on the piece of paper.
So I guess that isn't the cause of the issue for me, hmmm...
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| otis_bartleh wrote: |
Used a piece of paper and measured the marks on the paper with a caliper, and they're both the about same, 28mm. The passenger side was 28.29mm, but variance could be where I drew the line on the piece of paper.
So I guess that isn't the cause of the issue for me, hmmm... |
Hmmmm.
I measured my 15-Window (Sigla glass) and my Double Cab (Sekurit) and you are right - both have the same latch plates.
I measure approx. 30mm to the starting of the first latch hole, with each hole being 10mm wide.
I can't remember if the Sigla latch can be adjusted a little on its slider.
Is that a possibility if you loosen the 2 mounting screws?
Looking at your photo above, your slider rail also looks a bit tweaked in front of of the latch, although the latch area looks straight and flat.
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Hmmmm.
I measured my 15-Window (Sigla glass) and my Double Cab (Sekurit) and you are right - both have the same latch plates.
I measure approx. 30mm to the starting of the first latch hole, with each hole being 10mm wide.
I can't remember if the Sigla latch can be adjusted a little on its slider.
Is that a possibility if you loosen the 2 mounting screws?
Looking at your photo above, your slider rail also looks a bit tweaked in front of of the latch, although the latch area looks straight and flat. |
I can't remember either, but I'll be trying that before shaving a few mm's off the front latch hole. Yeah, the rail is a little tweaked right there at the front. I didn't think that could cause this, but who knows, very possible...
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Is there left and right sides to these plates? I seem to have two right side plates , so my drivers side won't line up with the notches when closed.
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Yes there are right and left and yes the plates are the same Sigla or Sekurit.
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