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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject: Bus license light lense identification Reply with quote

Hi i just posted some pics here
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of the 3 license light lenses i hae. i'm trying to figure out what year they are from
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The one says ~~~
Hella
The other say ~~~Hella K1424
The 60's one with grey backing says K12828 on the right side on the left it says igm2300lt
Which lense is from what rear?
Thanks for your help erb
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I had the top one in my old 65 Kombi, my friend's 65 21 has it as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: what yera license light lense is each Reply with quote

vwuguy wrote:
Hi i just posted some pics here
of the 3 license light lenses i hae. i'm trying to figure out what year they are from

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Thanks for your help erb


The top two are 1958 and earlier - the middle one is broken at the screw hole.
The bottom one is 59 and later (or really late 58 with the bulge in the decklid).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, although there is a 57-58 "flat decklid" license light that is different. The mounting holes are not sunken and it uses a different seal.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, although there is a 57-58 "flat decklid" license light that is different. The mounting holes are not sunken and it uses a different seal.


I think the holes might be smaller diameter on the '57-'58 lens as well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, although there is a 57-58 "flat decklid" license light that is different. The mounting holes are not sunken and it uses a different seal.


I think the holes might be smaller diameter on the '57-'58 lens as well.

I checked and yes, they are just a little larger than the diameter of the screw thread.

They say VW on one side and K17 Hella on the other.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some more photos.
53-57 style, says Hella only
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57-58 style for use with flat decklid. Original screws as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: light Reply with quote

Is there a different seal for the lense for the early style lenses.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 57 and earlier lenses that mount inside the decklid have no seal.

The 57-58 "flat decklid" lens that I posted above has a unique seal. It is different from the 59-67 seal. I don't have a seal to photograph.

'57 and earlier examples are below.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: lens Reply with quote

I appreciate the pics as i allways thought there was a seal there but my bus came in boxes so thats why i asked. The 56 I had didn't have the lense in there since your bus is the same color as mine sealing wax red ha. I have really clear picture of what i need to do and clearifys that not all busses had that lense seal on there. Where there clips or screws holding that license light on?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: metal cover Reply with quote

I have this metal cover that goes over that license light annd houses it that comes with an accessory engine interior light with a cord extention anyone heard of that.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Re: lens Reply with quote

vwuguy wrote:
Where there clips or screws holding that license light on?

In the 1955 photos I just posted above? There are screws, washers, and nuts as seen above.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Re: metal cover Reply with quote

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I have this metal cover that goes over that license light annd houses it that comes with an accessory engine interior light with a cord extention anyone heard of that.

I have seen accessory lights but not the type you describe above. Please post a photo.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:11 am    Post subject: light Reply with quote

I found the base from it. It had a light inside+ a bulb holder and wire extension for the trouble shooting light. I removed it from a 57 bus that had been sitting in a field since 65 at least thats what the plates said. I'll have to digf through some boxes of parts to find the rest of it but its here somewhere its a really neat hella item.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 3 different lenses,2 of them are pictured above but i have one with just the ~ sign and no hella.
Can anyone tell from what year it is? and which is the correct one for my 4/58?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EverettB wrote:
campingbox wrote:
EverettB wrote:
Yes, although there is a 57-58 "flat decklid" license light that is different. The mounting holes are not sunken and it uses a different seal.


I think the holes might be smaller diameter on the '57-'58 lens as well.

I checked and yes, they are just a little larger than the diameter of the screw thread.

They say VW on one side and K17 Hella on the other.
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Here's a slightly different 57-58 lens for flat decklids. This one has the logos stacked in the center rather than at the sides. It comes from a May of '57 bus so possibly an early version of this lens.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is there anyone that sells the 57-58 license lense and seal?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joshua B wrote:
So is there anyone that sells the 57-58 license lense and seal?


I found the license lense in the classifieds for my '58. Like Joshua, I'm curious if anyone knows a supplier for the seal. I'm extremely tempted to take the dremel to my decklid so the '59 lens and seal will fit for a fraction of the cost! Plus, parts are readily available.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: Bus license light lense identification Reply with quote

So the ‘Hella’ version is 1953-1957, we think
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What years is the ‘~~~ Hella K1424’ version correct for?
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Doug’s old ad says 1954/55
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1457170

I also have one lens that is totally plain (top)
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I’d like to know for sure which one is right for my Feb ‘55
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Bus license light lense identification Reply with quote

Here is a SWF and VW K12828 marked one. I have usually seen Hella lenses in the past, not sure if this is for a certain year or just a time frame where a second source was needed to keep up with current demand. I doubt it was a replacement since it has the VW logo but who knows…

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