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The Volkswagen Ranch
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 Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:19 am Post subject: 1963 convertible top question |
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Anybody know if a 63 convertible had a wool headliner or vinyl? Just bought an amazing 63 original vert that at some point many years ago had the top replaced. My '57 vert had a wool headliner...but think that I had read years ago somewhere that the wool was replaced with vinyl in production year 1958. Your replies are welcome.
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notsnarb
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ALL Karmann convertibles starting during the 1963 model year went from cloth to off white perforated vinyl for the headliner.
Thanks Chucks for the info
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The Volkswagen Ranch
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Ooops...forgot to mention it is a beetle, not a Ghia..this may make a difference...let me know, Thanks, Bob
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bugmandave
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my 63 had a german stretch wool headliner. chucks has a similar material available
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notsnarb
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| Ooops...forgot to mention it is a beetle, not a Ghia..this may make a difference...let me know, Thanks, Bob |
I just edited it, should read 'ALL Karmann convertibles' apologies. I researched this for my '61. next question is what color should it be? |
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Also most verts were special ordered and i know dealers would change up interiors for the customers specs
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| Also most verts were special ordered and i know dealers would change up interiors for the customers specs |
Now I've heard "special order" plenty- but not "special built."
I've also never seen a factory headliner past '62 with the mohair. We need some pictures of the car in question. There should be no reason why an original mohair liner in a vert would still be presentable. Even in hardtops they are stained and thinned (defurred).
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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bugmandave
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They weren't mohair they were stretch wool. Mohair was not stretchy enough to use in a vert.
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The Volkswagen Ranch
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Strange how these posts can tend to go off in different directions...When I replaced the headliner in my '57 vert, it was done with fabric (I believe a wool) from WW. It was flexible, and looked fantastic. I believe that the wool headliner fabric coordinated in color with the convertible top. Thank you all for clarifying the vinyl/wool issue in my 63. My 64 has vinyl, and is correct. Bob
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The Volkswagen Ranch
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:48 am Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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Here is how the top turned out - just
Perfect !
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:02 am Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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Here are more photos . See Gallery as well
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:06 am Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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Very nice, what a great looking Beetle. Where did you get your beauty rims?
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The Volkswagen Ranch
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:12 am Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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BFY back in 2000. They were 79.00 a set then! About as close to the real thing you can (could) get.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:21 am Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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That's a great looking vert. How odd that I didn't notice it at the PHX bug-o-rama.
Who did the top?
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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The top was done by Doug Stinson, owner of All American Upholstery in Tempe? AZ, great guy,,
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| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:46 am Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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That is stunning  |
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The Volkswagen Ranch
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| Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 convertible top question |
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Thanks so much
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| MARKYSTEW wrote: |
| That is stunning |
This is it! ^^^
Now I have reference material for my '62 gulf blue convertible. Beautiful!
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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