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Yellow Rabbit Samba Member
Joined: August 31, 2005 Posts: 1146
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:04 am Post subject: Replacing every coolant line |
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I'm thinking about replacing all of the coolant lines on my 1.9. What else should be done at the same time? My van has the long steel lines to the front. They seem ok, but are they prone to failure? I suppose I should replace the H pipe too. What else?
Where's the best place to get a full hose set without breaking the bank? |
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10368 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:16 am Post subject: |
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There should be info in the archives here re: your questions but fwiw....
I painted a set of used 1.9 steel long pipes and used them in my '81. 2 or 3 coats of POR-15 then top coat with tremclad or some such. They are holding up fine after 5+ years. Image below shows worst pitting I saw at pipes.
If you decide to keep some of the steel hoses at engine, maybe consider using Zero Rust rust paint. I just did this with the engine bay coolant pipes on my 2.1 Untested as of yet but according to Zero Rust, that paint can withstand some higher temps.
Neil.
_________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3114 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:17 am Post subject: |
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I would upgrade the plastic coolant manifold and plastic thermostat housing with stainless/aluminum versions for some relatively cheap peace of mind.
It's also a great time to replace the radiator for just a couple hundred $ more. It may seem expensive but once you're finished with the project it sure feels good to know that EVERYTHING was replaced. Be sure to inspect any other original metal pipes too.
I think I got most of my hoses from Van Cafe and a few oddballs (I have an auto transmission) from GoWesty. _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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Yellow Rabbit Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:40 am Post subject: |
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Would a radiator need to be replaced more so from mileage or time? My van doesn't have a lot of miles but it sat for quite a while. |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16501 Location: Brookeville, MD
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7754 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:47 am Post subject: |
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SCM wrote: |
I would upgrade the plastic coolant manifold and plastic thermostat housing ... |
FWIW - The 1.9 actually uses the same metal t'stat housing as the Syncro...KEEP IT!
Having said that, another vote for replacing the plastic manifold - they're made to fail... _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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SCM Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2011 Posts: 3114 Location: Bozeman MT
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:58 am Post subject: |
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dhaavers wrote: |
SCM wrote: |
I would upgrade the plastic coolant manifold and plastic thermostat housing ... |
FWIW - The 1.9 actually uses the same metal t'stat housing as the Syncro...KEEP IT!
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Lucky SOBs with all your metal parts! _________________ '91 Westfalia GL Automatic (GTA "Turbo" Rebuild w/Peloquin) and 2.3L GoWesty Engine |
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Yellow Rabbit Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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You lucky ones with the extra HP. |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7754 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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morymob Samba Member
Joined: November 09, 2007 Posts: 4683 Location: east-tn
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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Syncro came out in 86 also had 2.1 eng, thst housing plastic sttting top left of hd, 1.9 is alum sits lower left of water pump, totally diff psrts. |
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vanagonjon Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 230
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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If it is an auto, consider using the FAS transmission cooler and swap over to the manual transmission type cooling circuit while you are at it. I have not had a 1.9 for a long time so don't recall all of the differences. I am doing up a new to me 2.1 and changing everything possible in the cooling system. Some of the hoses to the vent ring were rock hard.
John |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7754 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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morymob wrote: |
Syncro came out in 86 also had 2.1 eng... totally diff psrts. |
Yeah, oops. I was thinking about Syncro uses the same temp senders as the 1.9...
Anyway, the 1.9 t'stat housing IS metal, and still better in that regard than anything plastic on the 2.1's...
[/offtopic] _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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Westified Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2012 Posts: 402 Location: Miami, FL
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I just got done replacing all my coolant lines with the Van-Café kit and exterior heater hoses. I have previously removed my rear heater (not needed in Miami). I did not replace the two long metal coolant pipes since they were in good shape. I replaced my H pipe with a metal one and the bottom coolant pipe at the rear of the engine with a stainless steel pipe (BusDepot I believe) along with a new water pump. My mechanic kept saying my radiator is fine so I left the original in. Hopefully that is a good decision. I do flush the radiator regularly and have only 58,000 miles on my Westy which is garage kept. You will need to order the adapter kit (4 small adapter hoses) for the 1.25" long coolant pipe hoses since the later model pipes are 1.5". _________________ 1984 Westy Wolfsburg, owned since 1987. FAS 2.0 NA engine conversion in 2022. |
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