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michla Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2003 Posts: 331 Location: Wasilla, AK (yes, there's drag racing up here !)
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: ring & pinion mismatch ? |
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I was given four sets of 3.88 Gleason ring & pinions which I'm assured were from four Super Beetle transaxles. Problem is, the owner didn't mark or keep the r&p pair together for each set and they're the late ones without the identifying numbers on each other than the gear ratio.
I want to run them in a race gearbox, but what would happen if I mix and match pinions with a ring gear of the same ratio from another set? Just noise or might there be destruction? |
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bugguy076 Samba Member
Joined: December 11, 2007 Posts: 1068 Location: Dover, PA.
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:07 am Post subject: |
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I have done this In my drag car. Couldn't tell if the ring and pinion were whinning or not, it's too noisey in the car. When I rebuilt the tranny after a full season of usage, I could not find any problems with the gear set. I would not do this in a street car.
If you set the backlash correctly, it should be fine. |
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vwracerdave Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2004 Posts: 15308 Location: Deep in the 405
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:58 am Post subject: |
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There are no transaxle parts that are exclusive to only a Super Beetle transaxle. The 3.88 R&P gears were used in several different vehicles.
It will work but they could be very noisy and wear out a little sooner. If set up correctly with the pinion depths and backlash they won't just self destruct. Gene Berg has some very detailed instructions about building a racing transaxle and hand lapping the R&P gear in his "Blue Book" _________________ 2017 Street Comp Champion - Thunder Valley Raceway Park - Noble, OK
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michla Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2003 Posts: 331 Location: Wasilla, AK (yes, there's drag racing up here !)
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:40 am Post subject: |
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thanks guys !
r&p's out of SB transaxles |
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raymon covey Samba Member
Joined: April 30, 2005 Posts: 189
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:13 am Post subject: R & P |
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I have done this several times. Look at the color of the gears and match as good as possible. Then run pattern and get it a close as possible. Set you back lash as tight as possible and RUN THEM!!! Most of the time they won't even whine. |
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michla Samba Member
Joined: January 17, 2003 Posts: 331 Location: Wasilla, AK (yes, there's drag racing up here !)
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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good advice |
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fastone Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2010 Posts: 211 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Drag racing I don't see a problem mixing R+P as they don't ware out they break.
@ Ray just realized I never got back to you on the lash caps, If you still interested them let me know. |
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Multi69s Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 5364 Location: Lefty, CA
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