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steveoutlaw Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2014 Posts: 211 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: What is this - Oil pan extension? |
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Is this normal or is it some kind of oil pan extension? It looks to be hanging awfully low.
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Woreign Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2006 Posts: 2841 Location: Crestview FL
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: |
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It's an after-market deep sump. Adds more oil for the engine to use and some even have additional filtration. |
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steveoutlaw Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2014 Posts: 211 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Ok, now the for the money round.........should I keep it or get rid of it? |
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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Get rid of it , and while you are under there get the rest of your engine tin in place. _________________ In Stereo, Where Available! |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 13389 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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After you remove it, buy these http://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=113198031SI
As you see on your car, ALL the paper drain plate gaskets leak. I tried them all. I greased them, sealed them and they still leaked. I have these on my VW's now and no leaks at all. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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steveoutlaw Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2014 Posts: 211 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Gotcha. I already ordered the gaskets and a new strainer for the oil pan. But what do you mean by getting the rest of my engine tin in place? I'm a newbie here so I can use all of the advice I can get.
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Engine tin is an essential part of the cooling system.
Use this site http://www.vw-resource.com/engine_tin.html always good info _________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
1995 Ford F-150 - gone, hatred for it lives. |
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steveoutlaw Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2014 Posts: 211 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so now another big question.........how do I know what tin is missing? That page is good info, but I can't tell what I'm supposed to have underneath so I can know what is missing.
Thanks, |
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-Zodiac- Samba Member
Joined: September 22, 2014 Posts: 782 Location: Pensacola/milton, florida
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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I can't really tell, I would imagine your sled tin/ j tube tin. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
Here's another good picture of the tin.
_________________ 1973 karmann ghia - current, not the last VW.
1947 Chevy stylemaster - gone, but not forgotten.
1995 Ford F-150 - gone, hatred for it lives.
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Eric&Barb Samba Member
Joined: September 19, 2004 Posts: 24733 Location: Olympia Wash Rinse & Repeat
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Since we do not know what mismash of tin you have or do not have, it would help to post good detailed images of engine in question.
Missing #7 lower right rear sled tin.
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steveoutlaw Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2014 Posts: 211 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. I plan on putting it up on jack stands tomorrow so I'll get detailed pics of the underside of the engine and the topside as well. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22641 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Eric&Barb wrote: |
Since we do not know what mismash of tin you have or do not have, it would help to post good detailed images of engine in question.
Missing #7 lower right rear sled tin.
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And lower left #6 too?
Those two tabs you see poking inwards from your heat exchanger box ( big tubular looking thing) should be screwed together into the missing tin.
The tin directs the airflow around the motor and stops it from melting. It's important, yet deceptively simple looking. _________________ .ssS! |
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c21darrel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2009 Posts: 8211 Location: San Dimas
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NOVA Airhead Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2005 Posts: 5221 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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-Zodiac- wrote: |
I can't really tell, I would imagine your sled tin/ j tube tin. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?
Here's another good picture of the tin.
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You likely will need #5 as well. It often goes missing. There are two of them. One for each side. _________________ Ghia Owner Emeritus |
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Woreign wrote: |
It's an after-market deep sump. Adds more oil for the engine to use and some even have additional filtration. |
Filtration, Gracey? Nope.
c21darrel wrote: |
E&B, whats wrong with an extra 1.5 qts of oil? |
Nothing at all. And it may be there for a reason. But he didn't tell us anything about his engine.
Take everything you read here (or anywhere on the internet) as potentially incorrect.
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9829 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Max Welton wrote: |
Take everything you read here (or anywhere on the internet) as potentially incorrect.
Max |
Now THAT is a correct statement. |
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13952 Location: Southampton U.K.
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steveoutlaw Samba Member
Joined: November 14, 2014 Posts: 211 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:10 am Post subject: |
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I got called out of town but will be back in town tomorrow. I'm planning on putting the car up on jacks and getting some detailed pictures of the engine top to bottom. That should spark some debate!
Seroiusly, I'm hoping that you guys can help me figure out just exactly what cooling tin is missing.
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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